Wednesday, 12 August 2009

Sibel Edmonds and 911

Why do all the 911 conspiracists cite Edmonds as giving support to their notion that "Israel" was behind 9/11?

Here's a few paragraphs from her own website, dating back to 2006. I draw attention to the fact she implicates Al Qaeda - and Saudi Arabia.
Senator Graham’s Revelation

It has been established that two of the 9/11 hijackers had a support network in the U.S. that included agents of the Saudi government, and that the Bush administration and the FBI blocked a congressional investigation into that relationship.

In his book, "Intelligence Matters," Senator Bob Graham made clear that some details of that financial support from Saudi Arabia were in the 27 pages of the congressional inquiry's final report that were blocked from release by the administration, despite the pleas of leaders of both parties in the House and Senate intelligence committees.

Here is an excerpt from Senator Graham’s statement from the July 24, 2003 congressional record on the classified 27 pages of the Congressional Joint Inquiry into 9/11: “The most serious omission, in my view, is part 4 of the report, which is entitled Finding, Discussion and Narrative Regarding Certain Sensitive National Security Matters. Those 27 pages have almost been entirely censured [sic]….The declassified version of this finding tells the American people that our investigation developed information suggesting specific sources of foreign support for some of the September 11 hijackers while they were in the United States. In other words, officials of a foreign government are alleged to have aided and abetted the terrorist attacks on our country on September 11, which took over 3,000 lives.”

In his book Graham reveals, “Our investigators found a CIA memo dated August 2, 2002, whose author concluded that there is incontrovertible evidence that there is support for these terrorists within the Saudi government. On September 11, America was not attacked by a nation-state, but we had just discovered that the attackers were actively supported by one, and that state was our supposed friend and ally Saudi Arabia.” He then cites another case, “We had discovered an FBI asset who had a close relationship with two of the terrorists; a terrorist support network that went through the Saudi Embassy; and a funding network that went through the Saudi Royal family.

The most explosive revelation in Graham’s book is the following statement with regard to the administration’s attitude on page 216: “It was as if the President’s loyalty lay more with Saudi Arabia than with America’s safety.” Further, he states that he asked the FBI to undertake a review of the Riggs Bank records on the terrorists’ money trail, to look at other Saudi companies with ties to al-Qaeda, to plan for monitoring suspect Saudi interests in the United States; however, Graham adds: “To my knowledge, none of these investigations have been completed…Nor do we know anything else about what I believe to be a state-sponsored terrorist support network that still exists, largely undamaged, within the United States.”

What Graham is trying to establish in his book and previous public statements in this regard, and doing so under state imposed ‘secrecy and classification’, is that the classification and cover up of those 27 pages is not about protecting ‘U.S. national security, methods of intelligence collection, or ongoing investigations,’ but to protect certain U.S. allies. Meaning, our government put the interests of certain foreign nations and their U.S. beneficiaries far above its own people and their interests. While Saudi Arabia has been specifically pointed to by Graham, other countries involved have yet to be identified.

In covering up Saudi Arabia’s direct role in supporting Al Qaeda, the 9/11 Commission goes even a few steps further than the congress and the Executive Branch. The report claims "there is no convincing evidence that any government financially supported al-Qaeda before 9/11." Their report ignores all the information provided by government officials to Congress, as well as volumes of published reports and investigations by other nations, regarding Muslim and Arab regimes that have supported al Qaeda. It completely disregards the terrorist lists of the Treasury and State Departments, which have catalogued the Saudi government's decades of support for Bin Laden and al-Qaeda.

Why in the world would the United States government go so far to protect Saudi Arabia in the face of what itself declares to be the biggest security threat facing our nation and the world today?
Errrr, excuse me, but that all points to Saudi Arabia, if anywhere. Edmonds, like everyone else, has been exploited by the anti-Israeli goons? Where did they get the idea from that she was on about Israel? Her claims have been used to accuse Israel, haven't they?

And who knows if she's even honest?


socrates said...

Any faith I had in Sibel Edmonds left when she started blogging at BradBlog. She may not come out and say such and such about Sept. 11th and Israel, but the people around her do. Now how does someone like this end up with someone with as little credibility as Brad Friedman? They don't. It doesn't take a rocket science degree to realise if you want to be taken seriously, you have to find the right venue, or be like Cindy Sheehan and do it solo. We've all found ourselves at places where we later regretted being there. This is 2009. BradBlog is worthless. It's the left's version of Alex Jones and Rivero. She is hot though.

I checked out that kooky website you linked to in your previous entry. While that one is, it linked to another place called The whois for that leads to some bloke in Australia. It's the standard tinfoil rubbish. Obviously bullshite. Now would you consider it strange for someone in Australia to use a hosting company out of Utah? The irony is that place is associated with one of my former moderators, the one who claims he received a mysterious phone call from someone purporting to be ex-intelligence. In the recorded phone call, the alleged spook talks about being up against the Israeli government. Now what are the odds? Now it's quite possible that this person who I thought was a friend is a gullible Latter Day Saint who is preparing to become a God. Yes, there is something called being sealed. It's ridiculous. It's a cult. The guy's not talking, so all I can do is formulate conjecture with no one around to help me sort through it. This is what I was on about earlier about being tired. Even when I figure major league crap out, I get pushed to the fringes of the internet. Maybe I bit off more than I could chew, but I guess I did it my way. The Elvis Presley version. It comes down to who am I speaking to? What is the point in what we do? Unless some intrepid journalists get off their arses and check this out, it is going nowhere. Perhaps I will try to write a book. But it's not gonna be done in a few days or probably even a few years. But I know what I have figured out. And it is huge. Just like the shite we have pooled together. I think if we add our stuff together, it gives kind of a complete picture of how democratic processes have been corrupted on the internet. I'm not saying we are the only ones or are God's gift to cybersleuthing. But there is a finite number of us for sure who have spoken truth to bullshit.

socrates said...

If you google or yahoo Sibel Edmonds, BradBlog is a front page result. Also, disinfo writer Larisa Alexandrovna of Raw Story is listed on the front page of google. This is very fishy. Brett Kimberlin makes me sick to my stomach, and these asshats are tied to his hip. Then it leads to Tinoire and Rivero. Tinoire said she was military intelligence. Rivero worked for McDonnell Douglas. Then you can tie all these creeps to all the stuff you have dug up. The internet is a joke.

the_last_name_left said...

I only published this because I went for a quick look to see if anything had been said about what Sidel Edmonds had supposedly said on Saturday. I went pretty mych straight to her site, and picked one of the oldest things she'd written, and which I'd read before. That's quoted in the post here.

I was pretty astonished to re-read it - why aren't those quotes as famous as "the dancing Israelis".....they deserve to be much more so. But they don't say "the right thing" do they? If that article had said Israel instead of Saudi.....

So she's held as some hero by the conspiracy crowd - and yet what she says is Islam, AQ and SA. The most bloody obvious names to come out of 911. But never mind - let's all chant "!Israel! Israel! Israel! Jews Jews Jews!!!"


Her hanging with those people you mention doesn't seem too astute of her. Maybe she doesn't know that stuff - or maybe she's an agent of Turkey - or Israel! hehe. I wonder if any of this will get cleared up......or will it just get murkier?

Australians using hosting in Utah isn't so strange is it? The physical location of a server doesn't matter to a webmaster - you just buy space....and....who cares where it is when they buy it? On people claiming they're being nobbled by mossad - gotta take it with a major pinch of salt?

socrates said...

Ok, first of all, perhaps you are right about the server thing. Just another coincidence perhaps. Now back to Sibel. I am starting to think she is some kind of disinfo dispenser. The way the BradBlog goes on about decoder rings, the more I think about it, they sound like Richard Nixon denying being a crook.

So a few months back I noticed Sibel Edmonds posting at BradBlog. Now this "story" comes out. Or is it really a story? The whole thing seems manufactured. All the sources lead to BradBlog, a serial fabulist. A deposition was given at a whistleblower's convention or something? Edmonds runs some form of "whistleblower" group. This is like when Brett Kimberlin declared that he had an anonymous McCain worker who said Michael Connell was threatened by Karl Rove. It's just made up crap and propped up as news when it's really fiction. Then there is something about a lesbian Congresswoman being blackmailed. Then on schedule BradBlog posters show up bemoaning that this big story is not being covered. What is not being covered? Can nothing be covered?It sounds like she said, he said. And now by odd chance she is whistleblowing with something concerning election fraud? This crap never ends. I bet if one got to the murky bottom of all this, they'd locate the loch ness monster.

I'm curious who she really is. I no longer trust anyone who pops up out of nowhere like she did and becomes some name. Here is her biography listed at her website. Funny how she ended up translating for the FBI after all the other things she was involved with. Right after 9/11.

"she worked as the Executive Director & Co-Founder of Edmonds Industries, a Consulting and Holding Company, investing in international business and residential real estate development."

She has a degree in criminal justice. Man, I got a funny feeling about this broad now. She's hot looking, but that ain't gonna cut the mustard. She used to work for the FBI. Sounds like the cointelpro division to me. But you just wait and see. If you or anyone else figures this out, they will be branded Mossad or something foolish. Heck yeah, she could very well be a spook. I don't see a story here. It's like the whole thing is being staged.

the_last_name_left said...

strange biog.

Yeah, I had the same thoughts about the shouts of "Why isn't the MSM covering this!?" Covering what? Edmonds giving a testimony about some convoluted and obscure tale to do with Washington intrigues. Patience people? Wait until there's something to report? :)

I don't like the way they all jumped on allegations about a lesbian affair - they're allegations, the details of which no-one seems to know. Hold on guys? But off they go through a list of names.....doesn't seem to give much respect to "due process", or privacy, or any of that stuff that they claim to want to protect and uphold. It cuts both ways.....and I get tired of people not respecting that. Like just assuming Edmonds is the truthful one - or that the government can't have any good reason for silencing her. Maybe they do have good reason to do so.....I mean, people who sign on for non-disclosure, secrecy and work for the secret-state can't really complain when it turn around and bites them. And how do we know what Edmonds was complaining about to get sacked? Maybe her bosses were like...."This translator seems to think she's running the show....she's a loose cannon. Get her out of here...."

You know, it was 3 months wasn't it? And she's already complaining to her bosses about stuff? No bosses dig that wherever you work?

Maybe not - does anyone else know? It's a problem of secrecy and gagging orders etc - they automatically appear suspicious and subversive.

tbh I'm also somewhat suspicious of anyone who embarks on what may well be a lucrative career out of their "whistleblowing":like the 911 janitor Rodriguez, Edmonds is now on talk shows, head of a non-profit organisation (which pays salaries?), has a book coming out etc etc. For 3 months work as a translator? Hmmm. Maybe that's unfair - has to be considered. Especially in light of the fact she's hitched up with the people she is, and their relationships with Kimberlin and the rest.

maybe some stuff will come out in the wash - or maybe it will just get even more obscure and convoluted? Time will tell, i suppose. :)