The French Connection disavows any contact with Nazis, Fascists or Racists in any form.Interesting they feel the need for such a disclaimer. LOL
More than likely, all of these new groups are Government Psy-Ops.
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Maybe it is starting to sink-in? Just this week Prionplanet linked to a London Times article which referenced 911 conspiracy "movement" as "inherently racist and “intellectually scary”.
Prionplanet headlined the story
London Times Smears 9/11 Truth Movement As Racist, Nazi Like, StupidI don't see where the "smear" is - it's accurate.
So maybe we're finally getting somewhere, now that the "truth movement" is feeling a need to defend itself from accusations of anti-semitism, racism and connections to fascism.
The Sunday Times had written
“It is easy to mock this deluded gang of ageing hippies, anarchists and anti-Semites.”Prionplanet's hack in residence, Steve "I can't write an honest article" Watson claimed the Times' article was "sweepingly general and libelously offensive."
“I found the event not just disconcerting but also extremely revealing. I had never understood better how so many Germans could have embraced the crackpot theories of Nazism.”
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It isn't fair on anarchists, perhaps? Other than that, it's entirely accurate.
Anyway, back to Daryl Bradford-Smith.
Immediately following their disclaimer, they have another, saying
"We are not racist, xenophobic, homophobic, or prejudiced against any race, creed, or national origin. We are prejudiced only against criminals"Ah - clever! What they don't tell you is that they consider the jewish and zionists creed to be criminal! The very next thing following their disingenuous and manipulative disclaimer is a quote from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion! Surely that's revealing of a prejudice against a creed?
Some definitions of "creed", just to be clear:
Well, hardly a surprise to find that Zionism would certainly be covered by the word "creed" - in which case, what of Daryl Bradford-Smith's disclaimer? It's worthless, disingenuous at best.
1. A formal statement of religious belief; a confession of faith.
2. A system of belief, principles, or opinions: laws banning discrimination on the basis of race or creed; an architectural creed that demanded simple lines.
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–noun
1. any system, doctrine, or formula of religious belief, as of a denomination.
2. any system or codification of belief or of opinion.
3. an authoritative, formulated statement of the chief articles of Christian belief, as the Apostles' Creed, the Nicene Creed, or the Athanasian Creed.
4. the creed. Apostles' Creed.
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Daryl Bradford Smith (DBS/IamtheWitness.com) also has a prominent feature on Father Coughlin. Who he? DBS says he was considered "the second most important political figure in the United States." What DBS fails to point out is that
Coughlin used his radio program ....to issue antisemitic commentary, and later to rationalize some of the policies of National Socialist Adolf Hitler and Fascist Benito Mussolini. The broadcasts have been called "a variation of the Fascist agenda applied to American culture"So once again - what to make of DBS's disclaimers? Disingenuous or dishonest?
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After the 1936 election, Coughlin increasingly expressed sympathy for the fascist policies of Hitler and Mussolini as an antidote to Bolshevism.[15] His CBS radio broadcasts became suffused with antisemitic themes. He blamed the Depression on an "international conspiracy of Jewish bankers", and also claimed that Jewish bankers were behind the Russian Revolution. On November 27, 1938, he said "There can be no doubt that the Russian Revolution ... was launched and fomented by distinctively Jewish influence."What was that disclaimer again, DBS? Oh yeah - I forgot because it's totally worthless.
He began publication of a newspaper, Social Justice, during this period, in which he printed antisemitic polemics such as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Like Joseph Goebbels, Coughlin claimed that Marxist atheism in Europe was a Jewish plot. The December 5, 1938 issue of Social Justice included an article by Coughlin which closely resembled a speech made by Goebbels on September 13, 1935 attacking Jews, atheists and communists, with some sections being copied verbatim by Coughlin from an English translation of the Goebbels speech. At a rally in the Bronx in 1938, he gave a Nazi salute and said, "When we get through with the Jews in America, they'll think the treatment they received in Germany was nothing." [16]
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Clearly, Father Coughlin was trumpeting the same conspiratorial framework, underpinned by anti-semitism as that pushed by "the 911 movement" today, and which reflects the exact same anti-semitic, paranoia which fueled the Hitlerite fantasies of 1930's Germany. No wonder people are feeling a need to put (worthless) disclaimers on their sites.
Although "911 truth movement" is obviously a modern phenomenon, it has roots going way back, encompassing earlier American movements which segued right into European fascism and Nazism. Not only does 911 Troof share the same underlying ideas as those of the proto-fascist american movements of the 1930s, a pretty direct lineage can be drawn from the groups active then to those active today and standing in the shadows of "911 Troof" - eg John Birch Society, Liberty Lobby, Scaife Foundation.
DBS/IamTheWitness.com is steeped in the usual anti-semitic garbage masquerading as "real history". It has Benjamin Freedman, Henry Ford's "The International Jew", William Pelley ("...deep hatred for Communism and Jews, whom he believed were planning to conquer the whole world."), The (Jewish) Doctor's Plot against Stalin, Jewish financing of Nazi Party, etc etc.
It features Christopher Bollyn and Eustace Mullins - both of whom appeared at the AFP/Barnes Review conference mentioned earlier - The Rothschilds, 'the dancing Israelis', The Protocols, the Talmud endorsing paedophilia, "Why do we blame Zionists?", "Iraqi Jews; Israeli Niggers", "We must get rid of the bankers and Zionism.", "Have you seen the Money Masters video yet?" etc etc etc.
But of course, they hold no ill-will to any particular creed........
Funny, but I detect a slightly anti-jewish sentiment amongst all that - don't you?
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Yes, we have made a dent. The few of us. There's no other explanation. You don't talk much about the cybersmear script put in place against me, and to an extent yourself, but we have become a thorn for their plans. You are wrong however, imho, to loop all those who question 9/11 into the same basket. I think you should stop doing that. All the arses you have looked into do not make up the whole group. Though granted, they seem to make up a good chunk of it. The key to me is the concept of astroturfing. Disinfo people like Rivero, Rense, and Carto act as if they have this huge groundswell of support. I doubt it. I also doubt where they are getting that much revenue from their activities. I think their crap is all rigged and 100% psyop.
It sounds like this Bradford Smith dude is also 100% psyop. This reminds me of when Rivero plays good cop to the Maynards. Yet he publishes Maynard! What a friggen joke these fools are. They are not as clever as they think. It's pretty obvious they are stinking up the internet. For what purposes and where the funding is coming from, I am not exactly sure. But I do suspect this is shadow govt. propaganda provided via Special Forces Underground type people. I think the desire is to create limited hangouts and to make the internet look goofy in general. That way, places like Daily Kos and Democratic Underground can either bury stories that matter as being enigmatic or use obvious tinfoil to prop up the status quo. It's all about the status quo. That is the bottom line. If things were to be done correctly, the military-industrial complex would be chopped down by at least 80%.
Yes, we have made a dent. The few of us. There's no other explanation.
Yes, perhaps we have. :)
There certainly seems a growing consciousness of far-right activity in 911 Troof - there's more about it in google now than there was, of that I'm sure.
S: You don't talk much about the cybersmear script put in place against me, and to an extent yourself, but we have become a thorn for their plans.
Well, I'm only aware of a little of what you've been through. I got a sense of some of it when I became embroiled in that thing at err......some chemtrail place, where I was included as one of your supposed nyms/sockpuppets.
I can rememeber thinking that eventually someone was gonna find that one (?) post I put on that huge thread about chemtrails years ago......and that it was then gonna get very complicated. LOL. I posted on that thread because I just stumbled across it, looking for something......what it was I can't remember. I was intrigued by the length of the thread, about something I knew nothing about. I saw a load of stuff about Jay Reynolds, was it? Anywqay - loads of arguments, and I just tried looking around - putting names into google and stuff - and found an obscure tidbit about some meeting one of the people mentioned in the thread had been in. So I posted it......not even understanding the implications.......or what relevance it had to any arguments that had been going on over the hundreds(?)_ of pages argument. I was just stirring the pot......as I used to like to do. LOL.
Then years later I got involved in some broohaha on a chemtrail forum (?) I'd never visited, because I was suspected of being you. And then that thread turns up.......lol. Bizarre.
So......I guess there is some impact to our activity? However obscure? lol. That is a funny episode - and so bizarre how that old thread should show up and come back to haunt me (when I never cared or knew what i was posting about anyway.) Weird.
But anyway - I really don't know all the things you've gotten into - only from WRH official-unoffical board, and what you've written at allaircraft (havewings)! Sorry, couldn't resist. :)
S: You are wrong however, imho, to loop all those who question 9/11 into the same basket. I think you should stop doing that.
Fair point. Though, as you admit, there's not much of it left outside of the nazi-fringe of it.
And I honestly just don't agree with almost any of the "questions" anymore. I think they're largely answered - at least until there's something real to go on. And I'm also with Chomsky on it - that I don't think it is that important - nothing really changed except America experienced a bit of reality. I kinda resist the notion that everything changes because something happens to america. Just like the Israeli thing - even critics have their agenda set by Empire - and I try to resist that.
I'm gonna post a very good audio file about conspiracies by an anarchist - have a listen, and tell me what you think.
S: Disinfo people like Rivero, Rense, and Carto act as if they have this huge groundswell of support. I doubt it.
Yes, definitely. It helps them build that......flock of sheep thing (which they always abuse others for)
I don't think they're so numerous - but - and a big but - I do think they are already dangerous, and potentially very much so.
S: It sounds like this Bradford Smith dude is also 100% psyop.
As ever, I just don't know - nor care that much, beyond pointing to the fact that he's obviously not a very nice person, and can offer nothing to anyone genuinely concerned with 'making the world a better place'. He's part of the problem - not the solution.
S: What a friggen joke these fools are. They are not as clever as they think.
No, indeed. But it does work though? The threads at prionplanet are heavily populated with regurgitated bullshit.....over and over. Hundreds of comments for articles which are obviously hokum. And how many DVD's are they selling? They ain't gone broke yet?
S: For what purposes and where the funding is coming from, I am not exactly sure. But I do suspect this is shadow govt. propaganda provided via Special Forces Underground type people.
I really don't know. I think Scaife is involved.
S: I think the desire is to create limited hangouts and to make the internet look goofy in general.
I don't know. My take is that they really want people to believe what they're saying - or at least to take the thrust of it - essentially to undermine faith in liberal institutions - whilst edging people towards acceptance of far-right principles. Undermining legitimacy of Weimar was essential to Nazi project - that was the key. I see it all as chipping away at the foundations of liberal democracy - and preparing a force to be ready to seize control if/when the moment arrives.
Using Weimar as precedent, Trotsky is important - as opposed to Stalinist denunciation of social democracy as social fascism. Absent an incipient socialist revolution, social democracy needs the support of socialism against fascism.
Trotsky is interesting on fascism - though i find it very difficult, tbh.
S: hat way, places like Daily Kos and Democratic Underground can either bury stories that matter as being enigmatic or use obvious tinfoil to prop up the status quo.
The status quo deserves support against fascism. I'm open to correction, but as I understand it, that was the argument between Trostsky and Stalin over fascism vs social democracy. Stalin opposed support for social democracy through the ComIntern, which was smashed as soon as the fascists replaced social democracy.
Yes, it's a conservative position for socialists, but.......if the alternative is fascism.......?
That's all something I'm very interested in, but struggle to comprehend. I've read and re-read Trotsky on fascism, and I know I still don't properly get it.
S: That is the bottom line. If things were to be done correctly, the military-industrial complex would be chopped down by at least 80%.
Well, yes, I'm obviously all for that, as I'm deeply pacifist and social. At the same time though, social democracy needs defending? I've found myself becoming much more sympathetic to Christopher Hitchens, for example, though I railed against him in the run-up to the Iraq war. I loathed him then.....with a passion. But I re-read him now, and......I think he's making an important argument.
Anyway......all stuff to cover again.....? :)
We had to have made a dent. An elaborate cybersmear script never would have been put in place, if we weren't posing a threat to their neonazi ideology creeping into fake progressive websites. We have forced the disinfo to circumscribe our findings into their systems. I think they wish folks who see our stuff then when they end up at Bradford Smith's, they'll wonder why we are making stuff up. Of course we haven't. And I do believe it's simply too late for them to cover their tracks. Rivero, for example, is part and parcel of neonazism. He can never wash his hands of it, despite how often he tries to do so.
The funny thing about the Jim Phelps character you posted on, is that if he is truly a member or was of Oakridge laboratory, then he is clearly a government spook. You wouldn't believe the amount of crap he has claimed. He is one of the greatest examples one can come up with to show that a master plan was drawn up to make chemtrails appear as kookiness. He actually was one of the few people to ever have been banned from that website. He wenst all apeshite over Ariana Huffington. It's a long story. Anyone interested can look into the DBS archives for themselves, that is, if they are into reading a lot of noise. Yeah, I can now see how you came across the one long thread and decided to dive in. But it did throw me off to see you there. It's just one of those weird coincidences that pop up from time to time on the net. I just checked your one post, and the links still work. It's a head scratcher. Maybe a disinfo dude stole the name, or maybe there is something more to this. It's similar to how Tinoire alleges to having been military intelligence and Rivero having worked for the world's largest military contractor.
I definitely remember you showing up at Chemtrail Central, and I think I did a good job retracting and being nice to you. The best thing to happen was when you showed up to Aircraft Wings and we put our tough past to the side and got back into our mutual concerns. I think the thread you started, when I had guest postings {no longer allowed by free forums}, and you came up with the Mob Barley thing. Yeah, I have definitely not been a one-tune blogger. I've even got some stuff up at my place having nothing to do with disinfo fakes or chemtrails, if you can believe it. I started blogging in 2005 at Huffington Post. I got into chemtrail postings at CTC in 2006. Not to sound like an arse, but I have been the best chemtrail blogger in the history of the net. If someone wants to debunk chemtrails, they will have to go through me. That I am ignored by the big named debunkers kind of gives me the victory, imho.
I think these neonazis are only dangerous to the extent that people buy into there actually being tons of people in agreement. I think most of the real conspiracy people end up with Alex Jones, because he is effective in distancing himself from the obvious neonazis. We may know of his Rivero connections, but I bet most of Jones' fans don't or they do not understand the ramifications. I think one of the best jobs we have done is outing Tinoire. No need to really rehash. But it feels good to have gotten the revenge. These fockers would have been better off ignoring us.
I've heard the name Scaife before. I think you're onto something with him.
I'm starting to see your point better about how such websites are about damaging peoples' faith in liberal institutions such as civil government, the UN, etc.. I agree. It's probably more important to them than making the internet look unsubstantiated. Then when they astroturf that there is no difference between left and right, all nuances become hidden. I'm not very happy with Obama's performance. But thank the Lord he is President and not John McCain.
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Maybe your difficulty in understanding Trotsky has to do with the translating. I read one thing from him. I used it in a college paper. I wish I could remember some of it, sorry. As for Christopher Hitchens, you need to snap out of it. He has been an enabler for Bush and Cheney over the years. Once someone crosses the line like that, once someone makes some sort of 180 degree turn, I'm not quite sure anything they ever say should be taken seriously. I'm not saying this is like yourself going from Sept. 11th believer in studying the anomalies to debunking. I mean, the dude went from liberal to conservative at precisely the most awkward time. Something reeks bad about Hitchens, imho. Maybe he was just being an opportunist. Though I believe that is more the case with Huffington's transformation and not his.
amazing how much time you two spend on a blog that gets an average of 3 hits a week. 250 hits in 18 months-----3 hits a week.
NO ONE IS READING THIS!!!!!
Well, you seem pretty addicted larry :D
Im addicted? Look how many posts you have included my name in. Look how many times youve hit my blog and PrisonPlanet's blog.
WHO's the raving lunatic that is obsessed with blogs they claim to hate???
L: WHO's the raving lunatic that is obsessed with blogs they claim to hate???
I only know one lunatic obsessed with blogs he hates - that's you, Larry.
Back on topic - why do people like you link to DBS, Larry?
Is it because he has nothing but jew-hate all over his blog?
It can't be for any other reason, because there's no other reason for DBS to exist - other than to spew jew-hate.
Why else would he feel the need to (lie) and say "we don't support contact with Nazis" and "We don't hate anyone"?
You link to several ridiculous sites that spew jew-hate, Larry. why?
Funny, you seem to KNOW what all the jew-hate sites ARE!! LOL.
"I only know one lunatic obsessed with blogs he hates - that's you, Larry."
So, Im a lunatic, but yet you went on a site you HATE, PrisonPlanet, and posted comments under MY story (who you call a lunatic), so not only do you visit sites you hate but you read articles of people you call lunatics. Remember, I didnt come to your site until you posted under MY site FIRST. I would have NO idea who you were if you didnt come to PP and MY sit first!
ASSHOLE.
Who in the hell is DBS? How do YOU know who he is unless youre involved with him? Did you 2 write a book together? LOL
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