Rys2Sense - a slowly evolving consciousness?

Rys2Sense aka Ryan Dawson webmaster of anti-neocons.com has a new video. For once there's a novelty - at least a few minutes of genuine interest.

Somewhere in the middle of this video Ryan Dawson seems finally to be properly recognising some of the problems with Troofiness, anti-semitism and the far-right.

Nevertheless he immediately switches back to claiming Israel did 911, and Zionism this, and Zionism that, rah rah rah. But for a few moments he seems to be actually beginning to distinguish racism, anti-semitism and the presence of the far-right within what he calls "the movement" (911 Troof Movement). He even mentions people saying "jew this, jew that". (What about Zionist this, Zionist that? Doh!)

It will be interesting to see what sort of response he gets. I suspect he seriously underestimates the influence of fascism on 911 Troof and his audience. One example - he claims himself, Sibel Edmonds and Rivero are 'the real truth movement'.

It's quite astonishing for him to say such a thing considering his video and the criticism of racism in "the movement". Likewise when one sees him responding in the comments thread over at WhatReallyHappened, surrounded by obvious and blatant anti-semitism conjured for the purpose of exploitation.....by Rivero.

What are the comments of a supposed 'anti-racist' like Ryan Dawson doing amongst the anti-semitism of WhatReallyHappened? Why does Dawson think Rivero attracts such people? Can't he see it? Can't he see how absurd it looks to be found amongst that crowd - saying what they do - at the same time he's criticising racism within 'the movement' in his video?

But not only has Ryan Dawson been amongst such people for years he even claims Rivero/WRH is "the real 911 Truth Movement".

Oh, so it must be just bad luck that Rivero attracts the audience he does. And it's just blind chance that Ryan Dawson is to be found amomgst them, sharing much of the same audience. It's got nothing to do with people actually digging the Jew-bashing.......? It's got nothing to do with the fact their content attracts the far-right, racists and anti-semites? Sure.

In the video Dawson relates some tale about getting a little too mixed-up with people into William Pierce. To his credit he disowns them. However, Dawson doesn't seem to quite understand the issue - how is it he is getting too close to such people in the first place? They're your audience Ryan......that's Rivero's audience, his friends and colleagues, his fellow-travellers. It isn't LUCK.

I mean, does he understand Rivero or even his own audience? Doesn't he read what Rivero writes? Doesn't he read the comments from his fellow WRH members? Doesn't he see the comments at YouTube and at his website when he posts stupid Holocaust denial videos? Does he not pick-up the far-right agenda and memes running throughout his own website forum?

Perhaps he's beginning to notice. I sense something a little changed in his consciousness and I can only imagine it will develop, especially now he's mentioning the problem. What will his audience say? How will his beloved Troof Movement respond? It can surely only confirm what appears to be his emerging, more conscious thoughts.

Here's the vid, dated Sept 10th, 2011:


It's worth comparing his position on the video with the article and comments he responded to at WRH on the same day. [Go to bottom of entry for Dawson and others' comments.] Example:

We know WHO did 9/11.

9/11 was jews.
9/11 was Israel.
9/11 was zionists.

How many rats have to carry the plague, before you start exterminating rats?

Anti-semitic? You betcha. If you're not anti-semitic, my question to you is; WHY NOT?

Ryan Dawson hasn't quite got his eyes open yet, has he? He's got a way to go.

I wonder how much of an audience he will have left if he continues pursuing these themes and developing his consciousness so. Interesting to watch what will happen.

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Lots of things to complain about in the video. Taking just one - he says "individuals were caught on 911 with explosives.....and worked for an intelligence agency of a foreign country that benefited from 911.....and lied about Anthrax, the war and everything that followed it..."

ISRAEL!!! TADA!!!!

Surprise?

But who was found with explosives? And did they work for Mossad, or some such? It isn't as simple as Ryan Dawson believes. Not at all.

Does he seriously think an operation to demolish the twin towers was setup just that morning? They only just finished rigging the demolition early that day hence they were driving around NYC in a van of explosives on 911.....? Seriously?

Anyway, here's an excellent page debunking this story.

Troofers and haters quote the original news sources from 911, but never the corrections which followed a few minutes later. The corrections added that contrary to earlier reports the trucks DID NOT contain explosives. Apart from that, there's nothing else to the story.

Dawson not only claims rumours from the day as fact (truck-bomb attack against Washington Bridge), he mixes up the story with another about "the 5 dancing Israelis". The 5 dancing Israelis suddenly become the truck-bombers......and as they simply must work for MOSSAD then for Dawson the whole story of 911, Anthrax and 'the wars' explains itself. Zionism!!! Dun Dun Dun!!! Surprised, right?

That's how these Troofers roll.......

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Oh, and I can't comment directly on RyanDawson's YouTube video because I am still banned - he refuses to allow me to post. Troof.

Banned again - from a post complaining about censorship!

Rys2Cents.....or Rys2Censor more appropriately.....is at it again: complaining about "censorship" whilst engaging in it himself.

Here's the previous on Holocaust denier, Rys2Censor.

Banned and Censored at Rys2Sense - for 3rd Time

The Fearless Truthseekers at Rys2Sense/Anti-neocons have censored and banned me again.

One of the moderators, Tim, had posted a thread titled "The 'Muslim' Brotherhood, Freemasonry and Nazism" in the "Church & State, anti-Zionism" section. Tim's post simply contained a link:

http://www.terrorism-illuminati.com/content/muslim-brotherhood

Whilst the Freemasonry angle is the usual conspiracist guff, the page does contain something about the real history of Nazism and Arab ultranationalism, The Grand Mufti in Berlin for the war, etc.

I took the opportunity to post from 2 articles and a report I have linked to here previously - on the Muslim Brotherhood, and on the history of Hamas and Al Qaida as ideological brethren of Nazism. I posted as Antifa_6_million:

All was deleted of course - without any acknowledgement that anything had been censored. Before deletion, my comments received just one reply, saying

Trading Ziofascism for Muslim fascism... but there are no Muslims pushing us to war, but plenty of Zios.

So that shows where the power is... not the Muslim Brotherhood

Funny. It wasn't about "where the power lies", it was about the FACTUAL HISTORIC connections between Muslim Brotherhood, Arab ultranationalism, Islamic fundamentalism and Nazism. Not 'where the power lies'. If the Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas really are ideological allies of Nazism, then it's a bloody good thing they don't have power. But nevermind that, eh?

Of course, what I posted shatters the worldview of the anti-semitic conspiracist - and illuminates their claims with a rather embarassing light.

It's a history the 'anti-zionists' of Arab nationalism and Nazism would rather nobody heard. Hence Rys2Sense/anti-neocons deleted it all. Can't have people pointing out embarassing FACTS about our Islamic allies and the Nazis, can we? Nor can we have anything saying Hamas are akin to Al Qaida. That Mein Kampf is a best-seller in Islamic world etc. Nor can can we have anything which suggests Al Qaida has ever existed as an independent entity with a real, radical, offensive political and social agenda (Nazism with the Aryan Nation replaced by the Nation of Islam). All of this is contrary to the main notions of anti-semitic conspiracism and "911 as inside job" etc. Under that scenario, Al Qaida must be a product of American/Jewish world conspiracy, manipulated into acting American/Jewish interests so as to ultimately futher them (in what the conspiros ignorantly call 'the Hegelian dialect - problem, reaction, solution'.)

This is what they deleted:

The mad notion of a worldwide Jewish conspiracy, suppressed in Germany since May 8, 1945, survived and flourished in the political culture of the Arab world. An especially striking example is the charter adopted in 1988 by the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine, better known as Hamas.

In the Charter, the Jews are accused of being behind all the shocks of modernity: “They aim at undermining societies, destroying values, corrupting consciences, deteriorating character and annihilating Islam. (They are) behind the drug trade and alcoholism in all its kinds so as to facilitate its control and expansion.” In addition, they are held responsible for every major catastrophic event in modern history: The Jews "were behind the French Revolution [and] the Communist Revolution. . . . They were behind World War I . . . they were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains by trading in armaments, and paved the way for the establishment of their state. . . . There is no war going on anywhere, without having their finger in it. . . . Their plan," states Article 32 of the charter, "is embodied in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying."

For example, in the “Letter to the American People” of November 2002, which the report repeatedly cites, bin Laden warns: “The Jews have taken control of your media, and now control all aspects of your life making you their servants and achieving their aims at your expense.” Osama goes on: “Your law is the law of rich and wealthy people. . . . Behind them stand the Jews who control your policies, media and economy.” Yet the report’s authors inexplicably fail to see the significance of these words and the ideology behind them.
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Substitute religious for racial purity, the idealized ummah of the rule of the four righteous caliphs of the mid-7th century for the mythical Aryan "Volksgemeinschaft", and most ideological and organizational precepts of Nazism laid out by chief theoretician Alfred Rosenberg in his work The Myth of the 20th Century and by Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf, and later put into practice, are in all essential respects identical to the precepts of the Muslim Brotherhood after its initial phase as a group promoting spiritual and moral reform. This ranges from radical rejection of "decadent" Western political and economic liberalism (instead embracing the "leadership principle" and corporatist organization of the economy) to endorsement of the use of terror and assassinations to seize and hold state power, and all the way to concoction of fantastical anti-Semitic conspiracy theories linking international plutocratic finance to Freemasonry, Zionism and all-encompassing Jewish world control.

Not surprisingly then, as Italian and German fascism sought greater stakes in the Middle East in the 1930s and '40s to counter British and French controlling power, close collaboration between fascist agents and Islamist leaders ensued. During the 1936-39 Arab Revolt, Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, head of German military intelligence, sent agents and money to support the Palestine uprising against the British, as did Muslim Brotherhood founder and "supreme guide" Hassan al-Banna. A key individual in the fascist-Islamist nexus and go-between for the Nazis and al-Banna became the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin el-Husseini - incidentally the later mentor (from 1946 onward) of a young firebrand by the name of Yasser Arafat.

A central role in the propaganda offensive was played by a Nazi wireless station, now almost totally forgotten. Since the 1936 Berlin Olympics a village called Zeesen, located to the south of Berlin, had been home to what was at the time the world’s most powerful short-wave radio transmitter. Between April 1939 and April 1945, Radio Zeesen reached out to the illiterate Muslim masses through daily Arabic programmes, which also went out in Persian and Turkish. At that time listening to the radio in the Arab world took place primarily in public squares or bazaars and coffee houses. No other station was more popular than this Nazi Zeesen service, which skilfully mingled antisemitic propaganda with quotations from the Koran and Arabic music. The Second World War allies were presented as lackeys of the Jews and the picture of the "United Jewish Nations" drummed into the audience. At the same time, the Jews were attacked as the worst enemies of Islam: "The Jew since the time of Muhammad has never been a friend of the Muslim, the Jew is the enemy and it pleases Allah to kill him".

http://www.mideasttruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7692&sid=267d1ca00eb568875b786bc0372f2f73

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To my surprise Hamas turns out to be a Nazi-influenced, anti-Semitic, conspiratorial group, which sees religion as all, is primarily concerned with its competition against Fatah, and has the ultimate objective of the re-establishment of the Islamic Caliphate of old, an objective it shares fully with Al Qaeda. Hamas views on Jihad, Martyrdom, Western conspiracies against Islam since it was founded, and the absolute primacy of Islam in the world and in all areas of life are, to my amazement, nearly identical to those of Al Qaeda.

The Hamas Covenant, which is widely available and should be read by anyone interested in this issue, comprehensively reflects the views of Hassan al- Banna, Sayyid Qutb, and Abdullah Azzam, respectively the founder, key ideological influence, and patron of the Muslim Brotherhood.

These three, are (as set out in my book on the subject) also core ideologists of Al Qaeda , bringing their radical views on Jihad, militant Islam, martyrdom, the importance of a tiny vanguard leading the masses in the "right" direction, and a deep--seated belief in worldwide conspiracies, especially against the one true religion, Islam, into this completely religious document. The Oxford dictionary definition of a covenant is "An agreement held to be the basis of a relationship of commitment with God". The Hamas Covenant begins with the words: "In the name of the most merciful Allah", and very much continues in that vein.

The second paragraph of the Covenant contains a key quotation from Hassan al Banna -- "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

Sayyid Qutb, the godfather of Al Qaeda, wrote a paper in 1950, Our struggle with the Jews, which says: "the Jews were the enemies of the Moslem community from the first day... This bitter war which the Jews launched against Islam... Is a war, which has not been extinguished, even for one moment, for close on fourteen centuries, and which continues until this moment, its blaze raging in all corners of the earth... The Jews also utilised Christianity and idolatry in this comprehensive war... They attack every foundation of this religion in a Crusader-Zionist war." This is all Al Qaeda anti-semitic commentary and ideology and is clearly at the core of the Covenant and belief system of Hamas.

Abdullah Azzam , the patron of Hamas, coined the famous aphorism-"Jihad and the rifle alone: no negotiations, no conferences, and no dialogues”. This approach forms a core tenet of Al Qaeda and -as we will see - of Hamas.
These three core influencers on the Muslim brotherhood (the parent of Hamas ) are all highly anti-Semitic. Amplifying that anti-Semitism was the Nazi influence brought to the Muslim brotherhood and Hamas by the first leader of the Brotherhood in Palestine, Amin al -Husseini who held the office of Mufti of Jerusalem from 1921 onwords. The mufti spent most of the Second World War in Berlin with a staff of 60. A rabid supporter of Nazi Germany he broadcast on a Nazi Arabic-language station broadcasting out of the south of Berlin during the Second World War. After that war the Mufti was appointed leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine and deputy to Hassan Al-Banna.

Before the war the Muslim Brotherhood, part funded by the Nazi regime in Germany, distributed copies of Hitler's Mein Kampf and the Mufti himself acknowledged that it was only due to the German funds he had received that it had been possible to carry through the Arab Uprising in Palestine between 1936 and 1939. It is notable that during that uprising , more murders and homicides occurred inside the Palestinian camp than were perpetrated against the Jews or British. This trait of internecine Palestinian conflict has, unfortunately been worsened with the arrival of Hamas on the scene.

With this dual heritage from key Al Qaeda ideologists and from Nazi Germany, it is easy to understand why anti-Semitic comments are scattered throughout the Covenant. These refer to supposed Jewish world cconspiracies,The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, supposed Jewish control of the League of Nations, the UN and the UN Security Council, and Jewish responsibility for all wars, the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution etc etc.

http://www.richardwhelan.com/otherarticles/14January2009.htm

They also deleted a music video I had posted without comment in the 35-page songs thread. It was the Protocols song by that Rabbi dude. They need to get a life? Sheesh.

Oh, I also posted this link to a very interesting report on the Muslim Brotherhood which raises some very serious issues:
http://www.currenttrends.org/docLib/20090411_Merley.USBROTHERHOOD.pdf

All was deleted at Rys2Sense / Anti-neocons. Truthseekers, see......

This seems to really expose their claim to be antifascist as - a lie. Clearly, the interests of Islamic fundamentalism and anti-semitism trump anti-fascism at Rys2Sense and Anti-neocons. And it's one thing to disagree with the contents of what I posted, but it's quite another to refuse to allow them to appear. The content of the articles they deleted explains the reasons they were deleted. Neat.

This is quite disturbing behaviour for people whom appear to believe they are "anti-fascist". Black is white. Hello Orwell.

So who is to blame, Ryan Dawson?

Oh wow. The movers and shakers are.....Christians and Jews! It's not really saying anything much is it? And hold on - doesn't Ryan Dawson's signature say "This is not a site to flail on about space aliens-illuminati-masonic-deathcult-jewish-catholic-lizard-lucifarian-jesuit-queen-barvarian-etc bull hockey."

Indeed it does. It even says "Take that junk somewhere else."


So one can't say it is Catholics, but one can say "Die-hard Christians!"? One can't say "Jesuits" but one can say 'Die-hard Jews'?

But hold on....Ryan says he's against claims about Jews, he's opposed to Zionism not religious Jews? Or....well, who knows? One moment it's one thing, the next another.

Ryan explains, kinda (lol):

... the faction that has nothing to fear from the US media and who could cover up something as huge as 911 or larger are the Zionists of Israel and their allies in the US government and press who all profit through the MIC and investments from fringe element religious organizations who are rewarded with air-time.

So now it's 'the Zionists of Israel' and the military industrial complex(MIC) to blame? How does all that fit together? Ryan again:

"Multi-national corporations run our press and government. They tie back to the privately owned central banks."

So, 'christians and jews' must run multi-national corporations? Amazing.

The Central banks as you know are rooted back to the same Zionists who wrote the plans for foreign policy

Where did the die-hard Christians go?

So, the MIC controls corporations, press and banks.....all tied back to the private central banks....which are 'rooted' with those same 'Zionists of Israel' etc profiting from the MIC?

The US and Israeli agencies and their Neocon governments work for their own interests and those interests are guided by a racist, political ideology mixed up with a fascist version of a religion and Straussian philosophy.

Their own interests? The 'racist political ideology' of Zionism, apparently. So the MIC is 'guided' by this supposed racist Israeli Zionism then?

Ryan once again:

Israel is a violent nation that engages in false flag operations routinely and serves the interests of the MIC not any particular ethnicity.

Eh? Now Israel serves the interests of the MIC not 'any particular ethnicity', and yet the MIC is guided by 'the racist Zionism' of Israel. Glad that's clear! [Pssst! Noticed the circularity there yet?]

Ryan again:

US foreign policy works for Likud Israeli interests first second and third. This is because the Zionists and MIC have overlapping financial interests. But most of all the press is Zionist.

Ah - overlapping interests now? Separate and distinct, but 'overlapping'? That doesn't explain why America would work to Israel's agenda and not the other way around.

Ryan really does think all roads lead to Israel. Apparently Zionism is racist, provides a philosophy for the MIC and controls America's press politics and policy to serve its own interests - even though Israel apparently 'serves the MIC and not any particular ethnicity'.

Yet if Israel doesn't 'serve a particular ethnicity' how is it racist? And how come America apparently serves Israeli Likud interests rather than the other way around if Israel's Zionists don't serve any particular ethnicity only the interests of the MIC?

How can MIC serve the interests of 'the racist Israeli Zionists' whilst Israel serves the MIC interests and not 'any particular ethnicity'?

This is just a run-around - batshit crazy bamboozled. It's a load of half-arsed tautology playing kiss-chase with anti-semitism.

Zionism

"Zionism is a Jewish political movement that, in its broadest sense, has supported the self-determination of the Jewish people in a sovereign Jewish national homeland".
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Anti-zionism is therefore opposition to 'the self-determination of the Jewish people'.

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The charge is sometimes made that Zionism is inherently "racist" because its concern is specifically Jewish. However, Judaism can be practiced by anyone from any race, so it simply cannot be a matter of race and cannot rightly be called "racist".

Moreover, those claiming to be 'anti-Zionist' don't appear to consider the constitutions of specifically Islamic nations to be offensive. However they do find Israel's foundation as a Jewish nation objectionable. Clearly the distinction that causes them such offence is not the fact it is a religion, because they accept Islamic state constitutions as legitimate and offer no protest about it.

Instead, this sort of supposed 'anti-racist anti-zionism' is against the ethnic part of jewish identity: the offence must be being taken at the ethnic (Jewish) part of the distinction of "Jew/Jewish nation", rather than the religious aspect because Judaism can of course be adopted and practiced by anyone from any ethnic group).

Here's Ryan Dawson's claim about his website, anti-neocons.com:


Ryan bluntly equates zionism as racism (thereby suggesting his grounds for opposition is anti-racism. Who would complain about that, eh?).

But clearly, absolutely anybody whom supports Israel or Jewish self-determination can be called a Zionist, and anybody from any ethnicity can adopt Judaism. If Zionism is support for Jewish self-determination and any ethnicity can adopt Judaism, it can't be 'racist'.

Are we to understand then that when Ryan says 'Zionist' he really means ethnic Jew? What else can it mean? The only possible 'racial' aspect of "Zionism" would be if one considered Zionism a description to be applied only to ethnic jews. This conclusion is given additional weight by the loose and interchangeable use of "Jewish" and "Zionist" right across Ryan Dawson't website, including his own work.

Here's a Rabbi. Presumably he's a 'racist zionist', according to Ryan Dawson:


Maybe he is a racist? But about which 'race'?

And aren't these 'racist Zionists' just awful? Here's a picture from 'the racist fascist state of Israel'.....yawn.


'Zionism as racism' is an untenable position, and what we're really seeing is an attack on ethnic jews. It isn't Zionism that is being attacked here but rather the Zionism of ethnic jews. If it isn't that, what is it? There is no other answer available?

Also, is it not an act of racial prejudice to discount the Zionism of non-ethnic jews, whilst opposing the Zionism of ethnic jews?

So, what is the substance of the objection to Zionism as racism? Nothing, it's a hollow claim, and so it seems the whole notion is a mental contortion undertaken by anti-semites to escape the fact of their prejudice. Whether undertaken consciously (and cynically for propaganda purposes) or not, the result is the same.

Here's Ryan Dawson(Rys2Sense)'s view of the press: "the press is Zionist"


So what on earth does that mean? That the press supports 'a right for Jewish peoples' self determination'? What's wrong with that? Of course, when asked for the basis of this assertion that 'the media is Zionist' we're demeaned by Jew-spotters saying "He's a jew!" As if being Jewish is automatically the same as being a Zionist.

And look, here's Ryan claiming elsewhere that Israel and Zionism don't serve any particular ethnicity: Ryan says: "Understand that Israel is not Jewish people OK please get that through your warped heads. Israel is a violent nation that engages in false flag operations routinely and serves the interests of the MIC not any particular ethnicity.


If Israel 'does not serve any particular ethnicity' how can Ryan Dawson claim it is racist-zionist?

Clearly Ryan is a bit confused and his use of terms inaccurate at best.

Ryan Dawson, endorsed at Stormfront

The largest Nazi website in the world, Stormfront, digs "anti-fascist" Ryan Dawson.

Ryan Dawson wrote an excellent book about the entire Jew World Order. He's had to hide in exile in Japan for a few years.

"However, just how the Hell do they get away with it? Well they are free from any and all criticism because they play the two cards which an over-socialized liberal can not see through. They play the race card and the religion card, a double whammy. If you say the J word it is over, even if Israel has an illegal military occupation and sets up racially segregated colonies into Palestine, kills kids, knocks down homes of civilians and attacks them with a military and runs a brutal police state which is causing a backlash of terrorism on Israeli people (racist or not that is not a reason to kill someone). The Zionists are the real racist, engaging in ethnic cleansing in the name of defense and calling any opposition terrorists. They are creating terrorism by engaging in it themselves. Israel can do ANYTHING and the press will not mention. But then again just who owns our press and our banks?...
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Here's another example, which even includes a plug for his book and a link to buy it. Free adverts at Stormfront now? Everyone's happy.

One might imagine the Nazis over at Stormfront could spot a committed anti-fascist, such as Ryan Dawson, especially once familiar with a whole book of his political "work" and "research". ****smirk**** Let's just say it wouldn't be on any Nazi "to burn" list?

Perhaps the 2nd Edition of the book will have an endorsement by Duke on the cover, perhaps it'll be available on the Stormfront bookclub. $$$. Sorted.

Ryan Dawson "anti-fascist" - Published by David Duke. Racist traffic is "something I need", Dawson admits.

Must make ya prouder than shit. The full article is here, at Duke's website. [Duke is former Klan, racist, propagandist. Obviously.] Must be real nice making money out of that crowd. Reeeeaaaaal ethical, like.

Rys2Sense (Ryan Dawson) posted his publication at Duke's site to his own forum, anti-neocons.com. HE was quickly supported by this comment:

[Duke's] not as bad as people make him out to be, although he supports white sepratism (which is irritating), he's never actually claimed whites are superior or supported violence against non-whites.

the kkk was not some homogeneous organisation, there were many organisations classed as the kkk, he condemned the violent kkk organisations, and supported the peaceful but stupid white sepratist one. [SIC]

Ahhh......he's not so baaaad! White "sepratism" is just an irritance? I see. That quote comes from a member with over 2000 posts.

These people congratulate themselves as being anti-fascist! Whilst in reality, just as I claimed, they are surrounded by the far-right, including genuine fascism and neo-nazism.

And look at this next post, clearly betraying a radical anti-fascism, no?

Ry just the fact that David Dukes and David Icke and the like have found and read and support your work is impressive. It means people are paying attention.

Impressive? David's Duke and Icke? HAHA. Again, this is from a poster with 1500+ posts and whom imagines themselves to be "anti-fascist".

Talk about Doublethink.

When someone objects to how it might look to be endorsed by ex-Klan racists, Ryan justifies it thus:

I think the negative attention will actually work in my favor I can easily wipe it away, I'm not racist or crazy period. Their traffic however is something I need. I have a much better message. People hearing my take on 911 may actually prevent future racism and or crazies. I would infect their crowd they couldn't touch mine. People don't go backwards.

I need racist traffic! What an admission.

Funny that he sees the consumers of his output as separate types of people.....the anti-zionists and the...errrr...racists, I suppose. It doesn't seem to occur to him that there might be a darker implication about one's politics when finding one's "work" promoted by the Klan and Nazis.

Does Ryan imagine they like it because of its "anti-fascism", or because of its use to their racism and ultranationalism? Does Ryan care? No, he's happy to get the traffic. Ugh. Gotta love a guy with principles?

Ryan's signature says "This site is against war, Zionism, (or any other form of racism), profiteering......"

Well, isn't embracing much 'needed racist traffic' both racism and profiteering? [I doubt Ryan makes much money out of it, but that's hardly the point.]

And this is what an anti-fascist looks like, is it, Ryan? Do us a favour?

Miscellaneous Wisdom from Anti-neocons.com

Here's a few more pearls thrown from high table at anti-neocons.com - a supposed "anti-fascist" website:

Why shouldn't he attack Linton's house if Linton is an infiltrator and possible a Jew puppet? As the video says, you need to counter infiltrate to bring these people down.

Interestingly that thread features a direct link to Stromfront as a source. Shock! The author of the comment is "Drew J" - Joined: Jan 9th, 2007, Posts: 1629 The poster can't be dismissed as a short-term member.

The content of "Drew J's" posts are identical to those at Stronfront and National Alliance type places - they're far-right, anti-semitic, fascist, neo-nazi. Same content, same sources, same agenda, same distortions and sytle of fear-mongering. It's fascist propaganda. And Drew J spends pages posting typical Stormfront crap, and yet nobody at the supposed "anti-fascist" forum bats an eye. Or rather, those that do protest get banned - for being agents of the Jews....err...Zionists.

Here's Drew J responding in the same comment again - look at what he's actually condoning?

Tell me what Brendon meant by it. Because I heard him say he wanted them put in camps only to be asked where their loyalties were. If they said Israel, out of the camps they go and off to Israel. If they said their host nation and say passed a lie detector test, boom out of the camp and back into society. If I'm wrong, correct me and prove it. Don't just make insinuations that he wants them holocausted.

Camps, lie detectors, deportation. All fine. But how dare one suggest this smacks of the Nazis! Sheesh. That comment was in response to somebody saying that the person facing criminal charges for racism - Brendon - had in fact called "Jews to be dealt with like the good old days....."

Rather than report some anti-semitic nut getting done for racism, Drew J and the antineocons forum allowed the far-right narrative to be told - until one person stepped in to point out the guy was in fact a (racist) nut. Drew J sold the story as he often appears to - as one of Jewish malignancy:

The Jews in Australia have been leaning on Brendon charging him with racial vilification.

Anti-Zionism? Oh yeah, sure. Drew J has no inclination to make a distinction here whatsoever and nobody else at "anti-neocons.com" notices, despite their lame claims to not "hate jews".

Anti-neocon.com : Anti-fascist? Hardly. Part One.

The following are all examples of the "culture" over at Rys2Sense's self-proclaimed "anti-fascist website" - anti-neocons.com.

See how anti-fascist these array of comments appear to you? Hint - it reads like Stormfront to me.

The quotes appear first, followed by a snapshot of the page. [I'm IP banned by the "freedomfighters" over at anti-neocons.com, so can't simply link direct to the posts]. Here's the view from anti-neocons.com:

Far as I'm concerned we need to finish off all the zionists while we got the countermeasures to do so.......take them all to the courts, break out the tazer rifles...

"By the way, in March 24 of 1933 the "Jews" declared an economical war on Germany......and you wonder as to why Herr Hitler was pissed off at them?"

...maybe I should go there and slaughter a few jewish kids and babies myself, i wouldn't even think twice just give me a saw or a knife.

...you must kill [Israel's] seeds (babies and children)....

Why do people hate the Jews?
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They hate Arabs as a race. They think of Arab women as baby makers.....

Israeli Jews are after all the self proclaimed chosen race of god. It sick what do to their own kids. It is even more sick what they do to everyone else's children.

As long as you call It, or them, anything other than "Jewish" they are safe to continue to do their evil deeds in the shadows.

I do agree with you that we've been intimidated by them to some extent to the point that we are adverse to using the J word.

They're Jews, plain and simple.

THOUGHT CRIME ALERT - Holocaust denier Fredric Toben has been taken into cutody to serve a jail term over publishing offensive material on the internet.

I wonder if we can send [Toben] letters in prison.

Holocaust Denial for Dummies - The International Red Cross reported that less than 300,000 ...died of all causes....barely more than half were JEws....

They never found any trace evidence of Zyclon B in any "gas chambers" at any camp. The Zyclon B was used to prevent diseases at the camps, of course I could go to prison for saying that if I lived in Europe. It's still a fact, the Zionist's deny it because they're delusional and can't face the fact that other people suffered much worse than they could ever dream of under Hitler.

The majority of deaths were from exhaustion and starvation.

There was no 6 million figure..... The escalation of deaths for Jews/communists/gays/atheists came at the very end of the war, the majority by starvation after the allied bombings. ....the intention was that of slavery not extermination or they would all have just been shot upon stepping off the train. (as the handicapped were)

...between 750 to a million people (not all jews) were killed in the prisons on purpose then many many more than that were used as slaves most of whom died of stavation after allied bombings.

Hideous Allied War Crimes during and after WWII

From Ingrid Rimland - Good morning from the Zundelsite.....

Ernst Zundel out of Jail Today!

Our "war prisoner", the world famous freedom fighter, Ernst Zundel has been released to day after seven years from the Mannheim prison!

Great News! I hope [Zundel] is doing well.

Try watching a video by Ted Pike on google video

Full video of interview with Eustace Mullins.

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That reflects the lexicon and agenda of the far-right, fascism - nazism.

The sources include Willis Carto, Ted Pike, Eustace Mullins, Ernst Zundel, Zundelsite, AmericanFreePress, CODOH. The subjects focus around a mix of Holocaust denial, demonisation of "zionism" whilst being ambivalent about distinctions between Zionism and "Jews", conspiracism (World Jewish/Zionist conspiracy), legitimisation of Nazism and anti-semitism, delegitimisation of Israel and Jew-spotting, generally.

This is hardly what one should expect from an "anti-fascist" forum. It reads like Stromfront - just without the Swaztikas and obvious "tells". It's Stormfront Lite. It's the "acceptable" face of neo-Nazism.

This is what masquerades as an alternative. Oh dear.

And just in case you think Ryse is joking, check this:

If you must kill, Kill the, generlas, kill the politicians kill the zionist media. I never understand why buses and malls are targets. Seems like it be more effective to just poison the water, set random fires etc. A ton of things would work better than a one time suicide mission. Makes me think some of these are staged.

kill the politicians kill the zionist media?????

Jared Loughner anyone?

The disturbing thing about this is that Rys2Sense believes the entire American media and political system is "controlled by Israel", so presumably qualifies for errr.....extermination.

Anti-fascists? Idiots.

Anti-Neocons forum, baby of Rys2Sense, claims to be anti-fascist - but can't actually spot fascism.

I'd noticed that whilst they claimed to be "anti-fascist" they had included in their "news sources" an endorsement of AmericanFreePress, Willis Carto's fascist web presence. (Note how Carto's "AFP" resembles the "AFP" of Agence France Press, one of the world's leading news agencies? It isn't by chance.)

Here's the forum's endorsement of Willis Carto's fascist AmericanFreePress:


Suspicious of "anti-fascists" endorsing Willis Carto I had to ask what was the forum's view on fascism. I was seeking a declaration.

I asked "What is the general view of this board to fascism?"


Rys2Sense replied saying that "It would be the majority [that are anti-fascist] as in everyone but yourself who we believe to be a Zionist fascist."


So, Rys2Sense made a declaration that the forum was "anti-fascist". He also suggested it was in fact myself whom was the fascist - a zionist!

Having obtained a declaration against fascism from Rys2Sense, I then asked several times "WHO OWN AMERICAN FREE PRESS?" Eventually I got an answer:



Rys2Sense's Anti-NeoCon forum subsequently banned me, proceeded to attack me without right to reply, altered my posts, and then removed their link to Willis Carto's AmericanFreePress - the very same link I had complained about.

Here it is as it appears now, minus the link to Carto's AFP:

So, the forum is free of fascism now it has deleted that link, right? Nevermind how it got there in the first place?

And I can't give a direct link because I have been IP banned....by the "anti-fascists" at anti-neo-cons.com

So why did they delete the endorsement of AmericanFreePress? Because it was an embarassment? Well, what was it doing there in the first-place if Anti-neocons.com is actually antifascist? Clearly they are either incapable of spotting genuine fascism unless clearly labelled, or, as seems more likely, they are actually sympathetic to fascism even as they claim to be against it. [This is a pretty common fault across conspiracism - a claim to be anti-fascist appears whilst fascist propaganda and agenda are actually promoted. Larry Simons and BigDans'Big Blog have also fallen foul of unwittingly endorsing fascist AmericanFreePress whilst claiming to oppose "fascism". Indeed, this must be seen as evidence of the success of fascist agitation - ie it's common: even people whom claim to be "anti-fascists" can be found promoting fascism via endorsement of Carto's AmericanFreePress. That's exactly the result Carto wishes to obtain and vindicates the fascist's strategy of entryism and crypto-nazism. It works......because there are idiots like Anti-neocons.com whom can't (or won't) spot genuine fascism. The are, in fact, mere poseurs.]

You Have Been Banned

Rys2Sense issued a challenge at his forum saying that "You and I both know no one is going to try to debate me on this [Holocaust denial] here because when they can't control the media format they won't show up."

Here's the post:


Having previously been banned at Rys2Sense's forum I responded in the comments at his YouTube page. He again offered the challenge:


After I'd signed up and posted a few responses (which Rys was unable to address and which refuted some of his explicit claims) I was met with this:


http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/
My user name was CurtOnTheRadio Mk2 - because Mk I had already been banned.

My despicable behaviour is present in these threads:

[TBA when I get the addresses]

ETA 6/2/2011 - Here's what happens now at YouTube when I try to respond to Rys2Sense's invitation to "debate":


See, nobody will accept the challenge! Cowards! LOL

Deleted by Rys2Sense

I posted 10 messages or so at Rys2sense's website "anti-neocons". All of them were removed within hours without response. They were all civil, relevant but critical comments.

RysSense is often linked to by Mike Rivero's WhatReallyHappened website. Rys is a member of WRH and pursues much of the same interests - an obsession with Jews, Holocaust denial, grand conspiracy etc. He's recently been engaging in sedition over at youtube.

Anyway, in the comments at YouTube he said I should join his forum and enter "a debate" about the Holocaust there.

Thing is, I already tried, and he removed it. Repeatedly. And banned my user account. Rys denies he "ever" censored me - but he did it repeatedly with no warning, no explanation, and no public notice.



That post should appear here:
http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?p=148136#p148136

But it doesn't.

I have the evidence of another 10 posts being deleted. Ok, Rys? Stop lying now, huh? The evidence is clear - Rys does delete posts from his site - simply because they are critical of his POV.

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ETA - Larry has been banned from this blog after repeatedly refusing to listen to requests to ease-up with his bile and his filthy childish bad-language. Here's a sample of just a few days of Larry's posts - this is what gets him banned everywhere he goes:

Fuck you....you fucking panzy ass....Tell me shithead...your fucking LYING.....you keep fucking saying.....moronic shithead....youve been fucking OWNED.....answer my question asshole....OVER AND FUCKING OVER you big fucking dickhead.........you fuckwads....if you fucking ANSWERED it....Hey LAST FAG LEFT....asshole...youre an asshat....you prick!.....NO ONE FUCKING KNOWS!...all the shit YOUVE said...the shit I posted...douchebag....youre a colossal dicknut....Hey.....ASSHOLE....you fucking IGNORE....You pathetic sack of shit!....asshole!....Dipshit....asshole!...dickweed.

Larry has previous for this behaviour, he does it everywhere he goes. Here's an earlier example of Larry's literary style, for which he was previously banned here. Check out how honestly Larry reports his banning?? Larry is incapable of realising why he gets banned everywhere? He's a sick puppy.