One of the moderators, Tim, had posted a thread titled "The 'Muslim' Brotherhood, Freemasonry and Nazism" in the "Church & State, anti-Zionism" section. Tim's post simply contained a link:
http://www.terrorism-illuminati.com/content/muslim-brotherhood
Whilst the Freemasonry angle is the usual conspiracist guff, the page does contain something about the real history of Nazism and Arab ultranationalism, The Grand Mufti in Berlin for the war, etc.
I took the opportunity to post from 2 articles and a report I have linked to here previously - on the Muslim Brotherhood, and on the history of Hamas and Al Qaida as ideological brethren of Nazism. I posted as Antifa_6_million:
All was deleted of course - without any acknowledgement that anything had been censored. Before deletion, my comments received just one reply, saying
Trading Ziofascism for Muslim fascism... but there are no Muslims pushing us to war, but plenty of Zios.Funny. It wasn't about "where the power lies", it was about the FACTUAL HISTORIC connections between Muslim Brotherhood, Arab ultranationalism, Islamic fundamentalism and Nazism. Not 'where the power lies'. If the Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas really are ideological allies of Nazism, then it's a bloody good thing they don't have power. But nevermind that, eh?
So that shows where the power is... not the Muslim Brotherhood
Of course, what I posted shatters the worldview of the anti-semitic conspiracist - and illuminates their claims with a rather embarassing light.
It's a history the 'anti-zionists' of Arab nationalism and Nazism would rather nobody heard. Hence Rys2Sense/anti-neocons deleted it all. Can't have people pointing out embarassing FACTS about our Islamic allies and the Nazis, can we? Nor can we have anything saying Hamas are akin to Al Qaida. That Mein Kampf is a best-seller in Islamic world etc. Nor can can we have anything which suggests Al Qaida has ever existed as an independent entity with a real, radical, offensive political and social agenda (Nazism with the Aryan Nation replaced by the Nation of Islam). All of this is contrary to the main notions of anti-semitic conspiracism and "911 as inside job" etc. Under that scenario, Al Qaida must be a product of American/Jewish world conspiracy, manipulated into acting American/Jewish interests so as to ultimately futher them (in what the conspiros ignorantly call 'the Hegelian dialect - problem, reaction, solution'.)
This is what they deleted:
The mad notion of a worldwide Jewish conspiracy, suppressed in Germany since May 8, 1945, survived and flourished in the political culture of the Arab world. An especially striking example is the charter adopted in 1988 by the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine, better known as Hamas.-------------------
In the Charter, the Jews are accused of being behind all the shocks of modernity: “They aim at undermining societies, destroying values, corrupting consciences, deteriorating character and annihilating Islam. (They are) behind the drug trade and alcoholism in all its kinds so as to facilitate its control and expansion.” In addition, they are held responsible for every major catastrophic event in modern history: The Jews "were behind the French Revolution [and] the Communist Revolution. . . . They were behind World War I . . . they were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains by trading in armaments, and paved the way for the establishment of their state. . . . There is no war going on anywhere, without having their finger in it. . . . Their plan," states Article 32 of the charter, "is embodied in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying."
For example, in the “Letter to the American People” of November 2002, which the report repeatedly cites, bin Laden warns: “The Jews have taken control of your media, and now control all aspects of your life making you their servants and achieving their aims at your expense.” Osama goes on: “Your law is the law of rich and wealthy people. . . . Behind them stand the Jews who control your policies, media and economy.” Yet the report’s authors inexplicably fail to see the significance of these words and the ideology behind them.
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Substitute religious for racial purity, the idealized ummah of the rule of the four righteous caliphs of the mid-7th century for the mythical Aryan "Volksgemeinschaft", and most ideological and organizational precepts of Nazism laid out by chief theoretician Alfred Rosenberg in his work The Myth of the 20th Century and by Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf, and later put into practice, are in all essential respects identical to the precepts of the Muslim Brotherhood after its initial phase as a group promoting spiritual and moral reform. This ranges from radical rejection of "decadent" Western political and economic liberalism (instead embracing the "leadership principle" and corporatist organization of the economy) to endorsement of the use of terror and assassinations to seize and hold state power, and all the way to concoction of fantastical anti-Semitic conspiracy theories linking international plutocratic finance to Freemasonry, Zionism and all-encompassing Jewish world control.
Not surprisingly then, as Italian and German fascism sought greater stakes in the Middle East in the 1930s and '40s to counter British and French controlling power, close collaboration between fascist agents and Islamist leaders ensued. During the 1936-39 Arab Revolt, Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, head of German military intelligence, sent agents and money to support the Palestine uprising against the British, as did Muslim Brotherhood founder and "supreme guide" Hassan al-Banna. A key individual in the fascist-Islamist nexus and go-between for the Nazis and al-Banna became the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin el-Husseini - incidentally the later mentor (from 1946 onward) of a young firebrand by the name of Yasser Arafat.
A central role in the propaganda offensive was played by a Nazi wireless station, now almost totally forgotten. Since the 1936 Berlin Olympics a village called Zeesen, located to the south of Berlin, had been home to what was at the time the world’s most powerful short-wave radio transmitter. Between April 1939 and April 1945, Radio Zeesen reached out to the illiterate Muslim masses through daily Arabic programmes, which also went out in Persian and Turkish. At that time listening to the radio in the Arab world took place primarily in public squares or bazaars and coffee houses. No other station was more popular than this Nazi Zeesen service, which skilfully mingled antisemitic propaganda with quotations from the Koran and Arabic music. The Second World War allies were presented as lackeys of the Jews and the picture of the "United Jewish Nations" drummed into the audience. At the same time, the Jews were attacked as the worst enemies of Islam: "The Jew since the time of Muhammad has never been a friend of the Muslim, the Jew is the enemy and it pleases Allah to kill him".
http://www.mideasttruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7692&sid=267d1ca00eb568875b786bc0372f2f73
To my surprise Hamas turns out to be a Nazi-influenced, anti-Semitic, conspiratorial group, which sees religion as all, is primarily concerned with its competition against Fatah, and has the ultimate objective of the re-establishment of the Islamic Caliphate of old, an objective it shares fully with Al Qaeda. Hamas views on Jihad, Martyrdom, Western conspiracies against Islam since it was founded, and the absolute primacy of Islam in the world and in all areas of life are, to my amazement, nearly identical to those of Al Qaeda.They also deleted a music video I had posted without comment in the 35-page songs thread. It was the Protocols song by that Rabbi dude. They need to get a life? Sheesh.
The Hamas Covenant, which is widely available and should be read by anyone interested in this issue, comprehensively reflects the views of Hassan al- Banna, Sayyid Qutb, and Abdullah Azzam, respectively the founder, key ideological influence, and patron of the Muslim Brotherhood.
These three, are (as set out in my book on the subject) also core ideologists of Al Qaeda , bringing their radical views on Jihad, militant Islam, martyrdom, the importance of a tiny vanguard leading the masses in the "right" direction, and a deep--seated belief in worldwide conspiracies, especially against the one true religion, Islam, into this completely religious document. The Oxford dictionary definition of a covenant is "An agreement held to be the basis of a relationship of commitment with God". The Hamas Covenant begins with the words: "In the name of the most merciful Allah", and very much continues in that vein.
The second paragraph of the Covenant contains a key quotation from Hassan al Banna -- "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."
Sayyid Qutb, the godfather of Al Qaeda, wrote a paper in 1950, Our struggle with the Jews, which says: "the Jews were the enemies of the Moslem community from the first day... This bitter war which the Jews launched against Islam... Is a war, which has not been extinguished, even for one moment, for close on fourteen centuries, and which continues until this moment, its blaze raging in all corners of the earth... The Jews also utilised Christianity and idolatry in this comprehensive war... They attack every foundation of this religion in a Crusader-Zionist war." This is all Al Qaeda anti-semitic commentary and ideology and is clearly at the core of the Covenant and belief system of Hamas.
Abdullah Azzam , the patron of Hamas, coined the famous aphorism-"Jihad and the rifle alone: no negotiations, no conferences, and no dialogues”. This approach forms a core tenet of Al Qaeda and -as we will see - of Hamas.
These three core influencers on the Muslim brotherhood (the parent of Hamas ) are all highly anti-Semitic. Amplifying that anti-Semitism was the Nazi influence brought to the Muslim brotherhood and Hamas by the first leader of the Brotherhood in Palestine, Amin al -Husseini who held the office of Mufti of Jerusalem from 1921 onwords. The mufti spent most of the Second World War in Berlin with a staff of 60. A rabid supporter of Nazi Germany he broadcast on a Nazi Arabic-language station broadcasting out of the south of Berlin during the Second World War. After that war the Mufti was appointed leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine and deputy to Hassan Al-Banna.
Before the war the Muslim Brotherhood, part funded by the Nazi regime in Germany, distributed copies of Hitler's Mein Kampf and the Mufti himself acknowledged that it was only due to the German funds he had received that it had been possible to carry through the Arab Uprising in Palestine between 1936 and 1939. It is notable that during that uprising , more murders and homicides occurred inside the Palestinian camp than were perpetrated against the Jews or British. This trait of internecine Palestinian conflict has, unfortunately been worsened with the arrival of Hamas on the scene.
With this dual heritage from key Al Qaeda ideologists and from Nazi Germany, it is easy to understand why anti-Semitic comments are scattered throughout the Covenant. These refer to supposed Jewish world cconspiracies,The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, supposed Jewish control of the League of Nations, the UN and the UN Security Council, and Jewish responsibility for all wars, the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution etc etc.
http://www.richardwhelan.com/otherarticles/14January2009.htm
Oh, I also posted this link to a very interesting report on the Muslim Brotherhood which raises some very serious issues:
http://www.currenttrends.org/docLib/20090411_Merley.USBROTHERHOOD.pdf
All was deleted at Rys2Sense / Anti-neocons. Truthseekers, see......
This seems to really expose their claim to be antifascist as - a lie. Clearly, the interests of Islamic fundamentalism and anti-semitism trump anti-fascism at Rys2Sense and Anti-neocons. And it's one thing to disagree with the contents of what I posted, but it's quite another to refuse to allow them to appear. The content of the articles they deleted explains the reasons they were deleted. Neat.
This is quite disturbing behaviour for people whom appear to believe they are "anti-fascist". Black is white. Hello Orwell.
2 comments:
What you and other pro Israel people fail to appreciate is that Hamas and other Palestinian extremists hate Israelis, not because they are Jewish, but because they are occupiers, and because their homeland has been stolen from them. The rockets from Gaza largely hit former Palestinian towns inside Israel. Jewish people need to accept that sometimes, Jews, like any other people, are simply wrong. So sick of this anti Semitism charge. Why don't you just say anti Jewish? Perhaps because you know that Arabs are Semites too, and it kind of removes them from consideration as an oppressed group eh?
So sick of this anti Semitism charge.
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Well, don't mix with Holocaust deniers and people who really do hate Jews, like Nazis.
Don't pretend that Jews are exempt from racial prejudice.
If people can recognise genuine anti-semitism, then the complaint might be legitimate - but until then, it's hogwash.
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