Wednesday 9 June 2010

Mike Rivero (WRH) and Islam - Is there any criticism?

I've done plenty of posts on Mike Rivero's criticisms of Jews and Jewish religion and culture etc. But maybe Rivero isn't anti-semitic, maybe he's like that about all religions?

Here's what I have been able to find from WhatReallyHappened.com that mentions Islam.
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Islamophobia and hate crimes

Paul J. Balles views the correlation between bilge put out by extremist provokers of hate crimes like Daniel Pipes and other Islamophobic peddlers of hate speech and the growth of violence and discrimination against Muslims in the US.

Submitted by Redress on Sun, 05/30/2010 - 16:09
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Hmmm. Criticism of Islam is "hate-crime"! What a contrast to his view on real hate crime and his own criticism of jews etc. Amazing hypocrisy.
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Students of Islam will confirm that no Muslim devout enough to be willing to commit suicide would spend the night before he was to meet Allah violating so many of Islam's laws regarding alcohol and nude women.
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Ah - the good devout Islamicists - true to their word and custom! They would never transgress...that's taken as axiomatic for Rivero. Amazing.

There's a quite bizarre page about Islam here. What is that supposed to be? Whatever it is, it certainly isn't criticism.

Here's a whole page of claims at WRH that Al Qaida is "fake". So, not even Al Qaida is Islamic, huh? Islam off the leash again?

Here's Rivero explaining it is impossible for Islam to be a terror organisation, on a page asking "Is Osama Bin Laden Emanual Goldstein"
Stop and think for a minute. Do the acts of terror accomplish anything for the group that is blamed for the terror?

Does terror achieve their ends or obtain the results they want?

Or isn't it obvious that the acts of terror are actually achieving the objectives of those who claim to be the victims of the terror, to gain them sympathy and political alliances?
Ah - so extremist Islam is a victim, and their enemies (Israel/USA?) are the real cause of all terrorism attributed to extremist Islamic terrorism. Hardly a denunciation of Islamic terrorism, is it? Mad. Mad. Mad. Rivero continues:
Who is running Al Qaeda? Who benefits from their activities?

Who really benefits? That's who is running Al Qaeda.

Bush got his oil war......and Sharon got a green light to kill Palestinians and steal their land.
I think we can detect a pattern here, don't you? LOL.

Here's
Rivero's WRH clearly promoting the idea there was no Al Qaida involvement in 911.....along with another go at pushing "the jooos" under the bus (the page is titled 5israelis.htm!):
bin Laden strongly denied any role in the attacks and suggested that Zionists orchestrated the 9-11 attacks. The BBC published bin Laden's statement of denial in which he said:
"I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. ... The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States."
So, there we have it! Osama denied it, said it was the Joooos. It must be true? Seems that's good enough for Rivero, at least. He's such a trusting guy?

Funny that Osama Bin Laden's supposed explanation for 911 is identical to Mike Rivero's? They believe the same things, about a lot of stuff. Can we find a difference between them? Subject matter for a later post perhaps.......

Oh - here's WhatReallyHappened and Rense being promoted at......a Muslim Website! Seems the "fatboymuslim" (good name!) whom posted the thread finds WRH and Rense quite palatable....it certainly doesn't seem to offend him any:
a lot of what these sites say against the subhuman and shameful acts of the cursed and far removed from allaah's mercy, terrorist nation of israel (la'anahumullaah) isn't always found on mainstream sources and that's why it is refreshing to me.
Hmmm. I can see why he digs them.

And here's a Facebook page called "FUCK THE GROUP 'FUCK ISLAM'!"....and guess who it links to? WhatReallyHappened.com

Well, if there's a page by Islamists protesting a page by anti-Islamists, and they link to WhatReallyHappened.com, safe to say they think WRH is pretty cool for Islam? I doubt we'd find the same thing from any hardline pro-Jewish groups. I'm certain.

Well, there's nothing I can dig up where I can find Mike Rivero's WRH carrying any sort of criticism of even the most radical, extremist Islam. Let alone is there any criticism of Islam's milder forms. That stands in total contradiction of his position on Catholicism and Jewish religion, of course, of which there is constant, persistent, deep-seated loathing.


----ETA: some Muslim sites which link to WRH. Clearly they don't find WRH problematic for Muslims (could the same be said about Jews? No!)

---Here

---And here: http://www.muslimaccess.com

---And here:http://www.islamicity.com/

---And here:[Kamran Memon is a civil rights attorney and a founder of the Muslim Bar Association of Chicago. He is a member of the National Employment Lawyers Association and the National Association of Muslim Lawyers. He graduated from the University of Chicago Law School in 1997.]

Kamran Memon encourages your comments: wrh@whatreallyhappened.com


[WTF? WHY DOES THAT EMAIL ADDRESS APPEAR THERE LIKE THAT?]

From the author's About Us page at his website:

Administrative Information: The founder of Muslims For A Safe America is Kamran Memon. In 1997, Mr. Memon graduated from the University of Chicago Law School, where he was a student of Professor Barack Obama. Mr. Memon works as a civil rights attorney in Chicago. He has represented Muslim victims of discrimination before and after 9/11. He is a member of the Illinois Advisory Committee to the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. He is a co-founder of the Muslim Bar Association of Chicago and CAIR-Chicago. He is a former host of Radio Islam on WCEV 1450 AM in Chicago. (His weekly, hour-long talk show dealt primarily with Islam and national security.) He is the former editor of Islamic Horizons, published by the Islamic Society of North America. Mr. Memon can be reached at 200 S. Michigan Ave., Suite 1240, Chicago, IL 60604, (312) 961-2354, kamran@muslimsforasafeamerica.org.

Oh......CAIR? And ISNA! I've just finished reading a long report on the Muslim Botherhood, their ties to Hamas etc. They setup CAIR - and ISNA! And this dude has left an article giving an email adress as wrh@whatreallyhappened.com?

Are CAIR and Muslim Brotherhood subsidising Whatreallyhappened.com??????? More on that later. Bit surprising too to find Obama mentioned so close to CAIR and ISNA?

For some background on CAIR, ISNA and the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD - SEE HERE

Funny - but wow!!!! that ties together everything I have been exploring here......

Rivero, anti-semitism, support for Islamic terrorism etc.:
"...where detailed investigations have been made of U.S. Brotherhood organizations, they have revealed an extensive history of support for Islamic fundamentalism, anti-Semitism, and support for terrorism that has included ideological, financial, and legal support, particularly for Hamas and other Palestinian terror organizations. For example, many of the individuals and organizations identified in this report have either been convicted or named as unindicted co-conspirators in the Holy Land Foundation Hamas terrorism financing case.

Given the stated intent of the U.S. MB to conduct an “organizational jihad” in order destroy the U.S. from within and the extensive Brotherhood infrastructure existing within the U.S., the burden of proof must shift to the Brotherhood to prove it is anything other than what it says it is.
That's from the report I just read which links CAIR and ISNA to HAMAS via Muslim Brotherhood. CAIR and ISNA were setup by Muslim Brotherhood. And here's this Chicago lawyer - connected to CAIR and previously an editor of a ISNA magazine....and he's giving an email address as Whatreallyhappened! WTF??? What a tie-in? Maybe there's more to this Rivero and Islam business than I suspected?
Almost all of the U.S. Brotherhood front organizations continue to operate and, to varying degrees, have achieved prominence and are often treated by government, the media, and others as representatives of the U.S. Muslim community. The Brotherhood organizations include:

3. The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA)

5. Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR)
Insterestingly, there's another CAIR connection - the "NoMoreWarsForIsrael" conference that Rivero heavily promoted at WRH but which was prevented by the hoteliers (they got wind it was full of white nationalists) was helped by CAIR - they provided an attorney. Oh....nice.

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