Monday, 26 September 2011

Rivero's Idiocy

Well, ok, but what about the constitution of the following Islamic states?

Pakistan: Whereas sovereignty over the entire Universe belongs to Almighty Allah alone, and the authority to be exercised by the people of Pakistan within the limits prescribed by Him is a sacred trust....Islam shall be the State religion of Pakistan

Iran: The form of government of Iran is that of an Islamic Republic, endorsed by the people of Iran on the basis of their longstanding belief in the sovereignty of truth and Qur'anic justice

Saudi Arabia: The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is a sovereign Arab Islamic state with Islam as its religion; God's Book and the Sunnah of His Prophet, God's prayers and peace be upon him, are its constitution…

Sudan: Those working for the state and those in public life should worship God in their daily lives, for Muslims this is through observing the Holy Quran and the ways of the Prophet, and all people shall preserve the principles of religion and reflect this in their planning, laws, policies, and official work or duties

Malaysia: Islam is the religion of the Federation; but other religions may be practiced in peace and harmony in any part of the Federation

Indonesia: …the national independence of Indonesia shall be formulated into a constitution of the sovereign Republic of Indonesia which is based on the belief in the One and Only God…

Iraq: Islam is the religion of the State

Egypt: Islam is the Religion of the State. Arabic is its official language, and the principal source of legislation is Islamic Jurisprudence (Sharia).

Jordan: The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan is an Independent sovereign Arab State…Islam is the religion of the State and Arabic is its official language.

Tunisia: Tunisia is a free State, independent and sovereign; its religion is the Islam, its language is Arabic, and its form is the Republic

Morocco: An Islamic and fully sovereign state whose official language is Arabic, the Kingdom of Morocco constitutes a part of the Great Arab Maghreb

Kuwait: Kuwait is an Arab State, independent and fully sovereign....The religion of the State is Islam…

Afghanistan: The Republic of Afghanistan is an independent, unitary and indivisible and Islamic State, having sovereignty over the whole of its territory…

Yemen: Islam is the religion of the state and Arabic is its official language

Syria: The religion of the President of the Republic has to be Islam....Islamic jurisprudence is a main source of legislation

Bahrain: Bahrain is an Arab Islamic State, independent and fully sovereign and its people are part of the Arab nation

Libya: The Libyan people are part of the Arab nation. Islam is the religion of the State and Arabic is its official Language.

Oman: The Sultanate of Oman is an independent, Arab, Islamic, fully sovereign state with Muscat as its capital

Bangladesh: The state religion of the Republic is Islam



Martin Firestein said...

The fuck?

The first amendment is meant to be applied DOMESTICALLY, not in terms of international relations. What is Rivero smoking?

the_last_name_left said...

Funny, isn't it?

Even British head of state is defender of *the* faith - protestantism.

I guess his urgency to attack Israel (well, Jews actually) just clouds his judgement. He'll say any old rubbish. lol

I did get your email - may as well repy here. Yes, I heard of Jim Marrs - he's the favourite author of Larry aka RealTruthOnline, a frequent commenter here.

Whilst Larry isn't anti-semitic SFAIK (fair play to him on that score) he does promote people who are......he used to link to Willis Carto, for example. But again, to be fair, he removed the link.

I guess a lot of people just don't realise they're dealing with anti-semitism. I imagine they just don't care, which is fair enough to a degree.....

But people like Marrs must surely know, even if they disregard it. You said Marrs mentions Carol Valentine - someone I've come across plenty. Likewise Hufschmid and Bollyn/AFP. They're all big players in 911 Troof.....and all anti-semites.

Troofers really should have dealt with the problem, if they were serious. They never have, and they've never shown the least willingness to even understand the problem, let alone address it, let alone take action to isolate and expel these people.

One would have at least expected Troofers to realise antisemitism was never going to seriously help their cause. On the other hand, so much of 911Troof *is* antisemitism and so many Troofers *are* antisemitic, that it's no surprise they never dealt with it. What would they have left?

I've been following the Gilad Atzmon thing the last few days. Walt and Mearsheimer are digging themselves a new hole: rather than say they were wrong about Atzmon they've come out in his defence. Big mistake.

Atzmon's professed doubts about the Holocaust and claim Israel is "worse than Nazi Germany" is going to do no good for W+S. Good. They either need climb down from endorsing and defending Atzmon, or face a world of shit, methinks.

Even Galloway refused to share stage with Atzmon, sfaik - and he works for PressTV! lol

the_last_name_left said...

W+M (not W+S)

the_last_name_left said...

I just had a quick look at Hufschmid's site. Don't these people get sick of banging on about Zionism, jews and all that? Seriously - how many burning Israeli flags can a man take? What's the point?

And those Naturei Karta guys, or whatever? They are everywhere lol. They're the only Jews the far-right can bare, so they appear everywhere. Don't they care that the far-right so exploits them? What do they think they're doing appearing everywhere amongst "a certain crowd"? Don't they get it? funny.

If I hadn't seen it myself, I would never believe antisemitism would be able to sustain so many people's worldview for so long. Doesn't it get boring for them? I mean, it's hardly the most sophisticated idea, is it? But on and on they go....weaving the same old tired rubbish into every new story or event, and forever rehashing the past with the same antisemitic perspective. Don't they ever tire of it? I increasingly feel as BEAJ does - that it's a mental illness. It certainly looks like one - lol

Martin Firestein said...

I have a theory as to why the truth movement doesn't dismiss the anti-semites. I really think they're being hoodwinked. The 9/11 truth movement is against Israeli policies against the Palestinians and the anti-semites within the movement are able to mask their anti-semitism as anti-Zionism. Trust me, they are VERY good at blurring the lines between the two and I think that, unfortunately, they've done a really good job of it.

the_last_name_left said...

yes, but often they scarcely hide it - look at Carto's AFP, Hufschmid, Rivero and all the others. It takes wilful ignorance to miss it, surely?

Some people are taken in by the efforts of screening the antisemitism, but it's so blatant I don't think deception can be considered a reasonable explanation across the movement. I think it has to be considered essentially anti-semitic, and most are just playing along with the pretense that it isn't, falling back on false claims about ignorance when it's proven otherwise.

IMO if that wasn't the case the movement would have shown itself to be more receptive to charges of antisemitism. I have to conclude they know what they're doing.

On the other hand, they'll obviously believe most But then again, if they can swallow grand conspiracy of any ilk, why wouldn't they swallow antisemitism?, I think it's been too long and they've done so little about it that one has to reasonably conclude the movement is essentially antisemitic.

the_last_name_left said...

anyway - nice to see you again, Marty. Hope all is well in Marty-land. ;)

Martin Firestein said...

In prior visits to AFP, they seemed to take care to distinguish between legit criticism of Israel and anti-semitism, but today I visited the site and there was a video interview with some guy named Victor Thorn talking about his book documenting how Israel and the jews caused 9/11. I've never seen AFP be so blunt about it before. Maybe it's a change in editorial policy? Maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention the first time?

the_last_name_left said...

No, I think you're right - AFP is generally super careful I reckon. It's the mother, so she keeps a low profile, or something.

It makes sense that they're more skilled at it and more aware of their role, as they appear pretty central to so much of it all. It's who and what AFP/Carto supports and what they say that's usually malevolent.

If we consider Rivero's output to that of AFP, we'd have to say Rivero appears to be the greater antisemite and more acutely fascist.

Which is remarkable considering AFP is Willis Carto and Rivero often tries to pretend he's merely a radical conservative.

SO yes, AFP play it pretty cool, usually. And Rivero is relatively outrageous.

Funny how although Rivero has no 'offical' links to Willis Carto, and never mentions him, he (Rivero) nevertheless seems to know all the "big" stories in the world of (world) white nationalism/nazism.

And for all his supposed love of exposing "conspiracies" and secret societies and political malevolence he never mentions the presence of fascism in his beloved 911 "movement".

It's the only place he doesn't see it.

Obama's a fascist, but his mates raising their arms and Sieg Heiling don't get a mention. Hmmm. lol

Victor Thorn was/is WingTV. They (him and some woman - Giuliani or something?) started out as some "new" patrioty-anti-war-liberty internet TV/radio thing......and ended up chundering the same old crap, having attacked half of the "big" people in Troof, and "patriot-ness" or whatever.

All a lot of crap imo. They're always infighting and denouncing each other - everyone's a secret agent of the joooos, so they trust no-one? haha. Serves them right. I couldn't keep up with how fast they denounced each other and refactioned all the time. They're all a bunch of morons : either they can't see what they're doing or....they can. Either way.....morons. But they're all being supported somehow.....they all appear to have an audience. Bizarre.