Ok - here's the ipconfig/all results:
and here's the router settings for port forwarding:
here's the router showing it has my MAC address:
It still won't work, even with Win XP firewall OFF, and with Router firewall OFF.
What else to try?
Wednesday, 21 January 2009
Saturday, 10 January 2009
Idiot Royal Apologises - again,
Prince's apology for racist term
Prince Harry apologises for using offensive language to describe a member of his army platoon.
The News of the World said it had a video of the army lieutenant calling a colleague a "Paki" while pretending to make a phonecall to the Queen.
A statement from St James Palace said he did so three years ago as a nickname about a friend and without any malice.
The prince had to apologise in 2005 for wearing a swastika armband to a party, which offended many Jewish people.
The video reportedly shows Harry while still an officer cadet at Sandhurst military academy.
It was filmed in front of other cadets at an airport departure lounge as they waited for a flight to Cyprus to go on manoeuvres.
The newspaper said the prince had called the soldier "our little Paki friend".
'Extremely sorry'
In a separate incident, Prince Harry is heard calling another officer cadet a "raghead", the News of the World said.
During the pretend call to the Queen, as the Commander in Chief of the British Army, the Prince says, "Granny I've got to go, send my love to the Corgis and Grandpa."
He finishes saying: "I've got to go, got to go, bye. God Save You ... yeah, that's great."
A statement from St James's Palace said: "Prince Harry fully understands how offensive this term can be, and is extremely sorry for any offence his words might cause.
"However, on this occasion three years ago, Prince Harry used the term without any malice and as a nickname about a highly popular member of his platoon.
"There is no question that Prince Harry was in any way seeking to insult his friend."
The statement continued: "Prince Harry used the term 'raghead' to mean Taleban or Iraqi insurgent."
A spokeswoman for the Ministry of Defence said: "Neither the Army nor the Armed Forces tolerates inappropriate behaviour in any shape or form.
"The Army takes all allegations of inappropriate behaviour very seriously and all substantive allegations are investigated.
"We are not aware of any complaint having been made by the individual. Bullying and racism are not endemic in the Armed Forces."
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/uk/7822574.stm
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What a prick.
Monday, 5 January 2009
Martin Luther King: anti-zionism equals anti-semitism
". . . You declare, my friend, that you do not hate the Jews, you are merely 'anti-Zionist.' And I say, let the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of God's green earth: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--this is God's own truth.
"Antisemitism, the hatred of the Jewish people, has been and remains a blot on the soul of mankind. In this we are in full agreement. So know also this: anti-Zionist is inherently antisemitic, and ever will be so.
"Why is this? You know that Zionism is nothing less than the dream and ideal of the Jewish people returning to live in their own land. The Jewish people, the Scriptures tell us, once enjoyed a flourishing Commonwealth in the Holy Land. From this they were expelled by the Roman tyrant, the same Romans who cruelly murdered Our Lord. Driven from their homeland, their nation in ashes, forced to wander the globe, the Jewish people time and again suffered the lash of whichever tyrant happened to rule over them.
"The Negro people, my friend, know what it is to suffer the torment of tyranny under rulers not of our choosing. Our brothers in Africa have begged, pleaded, requested--DEMANDED the recognition and realization of our inborn right to live in peace under our own sovereignty in our own country.
"How easy it should be, for anyone who holds dear this inalienable right of all mankind, to understand and support the right of the Jewish People to live in their ancient Land of Israel. All men of good will exult in the fulfilment of God's promise, that his People should return in joy to rebuild their plundered land.
This is Zionism, nothing more, nothing less.
"And what is anti-Zionist? It is the denial to the Jewish people of a fundamental right that we justly claim for the people of Africa and freely accord all other nations of the Globe. It is discrimination against Jews, my friend, because they are Jews. In short, it is antisemitism.
"The antisemite rejoices at any opportunity to vent his malice. The times have made it unpopular, in the West, to proclaim openly a hatred of the Jews. This being the case, the antisemite must constantly seek new forms and forums for his poison. How he must revel in the new masquerade! He does not hate the Jews, he is just 'anti-Zionist'!
"My friend, I do not accuse you of deliberate antisemitism. I know you feel, as I do, a deep love of truth and justice and a revulsion for racism, prejudice, and discrimination. But I know you have been misled--as others have been--into thinking you can be 'anti-Zionist' and yet remain true to these heartfelt principles that you and I share.
Let my words echo in the depths of your soul: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--make no mistake about it."
From M.L. King Jr., "Letter to an Anti-Zionist Friend," Saturday Review_XLVII (Aug. 1967), p. 76.
Reprinted in M.L. King Jr., "This I Believe: Selections from the Writings of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr."
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8/9/10 ETA** Seems this letter is a hoax, though it does nonetheless articulate something of King's view - apparently.
"Antisemitism, the hatred of the Jewish people, has been and remains a blot on the soul of mankind. In this we are in full agreement. So know also this: anti-Zionist is inherently antisemitic, and ever will be so.
"Why is this? You know that Zionism is nothing less than the dream and ideal of the Jewish people returning to live in their own land. The Jewish people, the Scriptures tell us, once enjoyed a flourishing Commonwealth in the Holy Land. From this they were expelled by the Roman tyrant, the same Romans who cruelly murdered Our Lord. Driven from their homeland, their nation in ashes, forced to wander the globe, the Jewish people time and again suffered the lash of whichever tyrant happened to rule over them.
"The Negro people, my friend, know what it is to suffer the torment of tyranny under rulers not of our choosing. Our brothers in Africa have begged, pleaded, requested--DEMANDED the recognition and realization of our inborn right to live in peace under our own sovereignty in our own country.
"How easy it should be, for anyone who holds dear this inalienable right of all mankind, to understand and support the right of the Jewish People to live in their ancient Land of Israel. All men of good will exult in the fulfilment of God's promise, that his People should return in joy to rebuild their plundered land.
This is Zionism, nothing more, nothing less.
"And what is anti-Zionist? It is the denial to the Jewish people of a fundamental right that we justly claim for the people of Africa and freely accord all other nations of the Globe. It is discrimination against Jews, my friend, because they are Jews. In short, it is antisemitism.
"The antisemite rejoices at any opportunity to vent his malice. The times have made it unpopular, in the West, to proclaim openly a hatred of the Jews. This being the case, the antisemite must constantly seek new forms and forums for his poison. How he must revel in the new masquerade! He does not hate the Jews, he is just 'anti-Zionist'!
"My friend, I do not accuse you of deliberate antisemitism. I know you feel, as I do, a deep love of truth and justice and a revulsion for racism, prejudice, and discrimination. But I know you have been misled--as others have been--into thinking you can be 'anti-Zionist' and yet remain true to these heartfelt principles that you and I share.
Let my words echo in the depths of your soul: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--make no mistake about it."
From M.L. King Jr., "Letter to an Anti-Zionist Friend," Saturday Review_XLVII (Aug. 1967), p. 76.
Reprinted in M.L. King Jr., "This I Believe: Selections from the Writings of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr."
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8/9/10 ETA** Seems this letter is a hoax, though it does nonetheless articulate something of King's view - apparently.
John de Nugent writes to Mark Glenn - Proof the NoMoreWarsForIsrael conference was a product of the far-right
Dear Mark,
This email is in response to your email (below) blasting me, and another by Wendy Campbell blasting white nationists as "unsavory characters" -- after we made this conference happen.
The "No More Wars for Israel" conference, with our white nationist help, survived being pitched out of our hotel. Both days on the program were held, and with my help it went out on Internet radio VNN and soon four key speeches from the conference will go out on YouTube. Some will say that the speeches I, Margaret Huffsticker and Stan Hess gave were very important events. One can judge this when the YouTube videos go up tomorrow.
First, whatever your ironic remarks, my legal name is John de Nugent. I legally changed it from John Nugent in 2004. De Nugent was the original family name for centuries. (Google “Gilbert de Nugent.”)
Secondly, this conference was never yours with which to do exactly as you pleased. The conference was Joe Fields’ from the beginning a year ago, and only after he was defamed and slandered by some who apparently hoped to prevent it from taking place, did you “come on board ship” as a second person organizing the conference. It has always been a duumvirate, a rule of two men. But I think you forgot that. If you object to us white nationists, for fear of the Jews and what they would say, you should have withdrawn from the conference as you threatened to do in an email. Instead, you stayed and then complained throughout.
Thirdly, Willis Carto, who runs your newspaper columns,and Joe Fields are white nationists just as I am. And without us white nationists, there would have been no conference. Without our money, our mailing lists, our activists and our speakers the conference would have collapsed.
And without me, there would have been no Sunday session location at all, and no chairs or food either for the crowd at the nine-hour-long (and wonderful) Sunday session, after Jew pressure drove us into that industrial park and its ballroom, with no restaurants nearby. I organized the massive “17-pizza expedition,” hustling around personally, taking pizza orders and collecting funds -- and please assure Hesham Tillawi there was no Pepperoni Pizza Plot to bring back pork-containing pepperoni!
Fourthly, without us white nationists, you would have gotten no publicity at all. The major media ignored the conference -- as I knew they would, based on 30 years of my own anti-Zionist experience, which you do not have.
Now I note that your friend Wendy Campbell, who spoke at the conference and attended along with her very Jewish-named, Jewish-acting and Jewish-looking friend Mark Green, has now put out her own "for fear of the Jews" reference to us white nationists at the conference as "unsavory characters."
In fact, she did so several times, and when drunk at the hospitality suite she also reiterated to one and all how much she despises us white nationists.
My question is this: Are white nationists unsavory for you, too? I note that you received a check for $3,000 from Willis Carto for the conference. I assume his money was not unsavory.
I further note that you, with Lebanese ancestry, support the Lebanese and other Arabic peoples. Do we have your permission to likewise support our European and European-American peoples? Or is only OUR nationism as whites "unsavory," but yours is okay?
Fifthly, I proposed to you on October 8th in response to your complaints (see my email below!) that we white nationists -- who were the bulk of the attendees and supporters -- hold a separate conference on Sunday -- and that the "No More Wars for Israel" conference distinctly end on Saturday night.
You rejected my common-sense proposal. Why? In response to your attack, my proposal is to be found below.
Even though you did not even answer my email, I still tailored my speech, and Stan Hess his, to your need for ethnic inclusivity. Once again, we whites have bent over backward to accommodate others.
Here is the footage (still raw and unedited) of the first third of my and Margaret Huffstickler's speeches. (The full versions should be up tomorrow of all four final speeches -- mine, Margaret's, Stan Hess' and Joe Fields' -- on YouTube.)
John de Nugent's speech video – raw footage of first third:
NOT “white supremacist” in tone but inclusive, just as I pledged to you, Mark.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XkAPV-uXlsQ
Margaret Huffstickler's speech video – raw footage of first third;
NOT “white supremacist” in tone but inclusive, as I promised you, Mark Glenn.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xb8e4gKPVaI
The conference succeeded despite Jewish machinations -- to a huge extent because of the hard work of white nationists.
Joe Fields, who originated the conference, and who did an enormous amount of work for it, would not let you remove white nationists from the speakers list. Margaret Huffstickler, I and Stan Hess were among the first ones to commit to Joe's conference, long before you were in the picture, and that was back when he was still being actively defamed and character-assassinated. We stand by our friends, Mark.
I, Margaret Huffstickler and Stan Hess kept our word that I gave to you, and gave speeches at the conference -- which you had already walked out of -- that were multiracial in their appeal and were extremely well-received. I praised Muslim and Arabic peoples in the very beginning of my remarks, and saluted attendees of African-American heritage. I bent over backward to accommodate your demands.
But here is the greater context:
First, Israel -- the miscreant targeted by this conference -- is all Jews in the world. The “State of Israel” is just one part of Israel, one political entity and segment, because Israel is the Jewish people everywhere. The most sacred Jewish prayer on the High Holy Days is “Hear, O Israel: the Lord thy god is one God.” All Jews are thus Israel, all Jews are self-proclaimed Israelites, and my speech addressed that entire Israel.
Secondly, we white nationists have all marched for the Palestinians, written articles for the oppressed Arabs and I myself have even been a member of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee and sent them money. As a white man, I have supported your people.
But is there any reciprocity? Any Arab support for us whites? We whites are truly the Palestinians of North America and Europe. We are crushed in our own homelands, forbidden to speak, ethnically cleansed from the streets of our cities, suburbs, towns and villages everywhere, dying out through a Jew-promoted depression of our birth rate, through abortion, homosexuality, white guilt and the general fear whites have that their kids will have no future as whites -- or can be happy, or be raised to be well-behaved in a Jewish cultural cesspool. Your Arabic peoples are at least not dying out; only we whites are.
All this is the work of the same Jew who oppresses and commits genocide on your people. Yet for fear of the Jews you condemn me, your staunch ally who helped save this conference to which your name was attached.
The Dalai Lama just was honored at the White House and said: "If things do not change, we Tibetans will become an insignificant minority in our own country." That is what we whites face in every single white country -- that the Jews are slowly killing us off psychologically -- and soon, as in South Africa and as the Bolsheviks did in Russia to the tune of 40 million, they will begin killing us off physically as individuals and then en masse, by the millions. We are facing genocide. We are the Palestinians of our own homelands. Do you, Mark, care about US -- as we care about YOU?
Or do we whites exist only as paying fodder and attendee fodder for your apparent dream of an Arab-agenda conference – which the Jewsmedia, predictably, did not cover in any case?
As a very fine young white nationist, Evan Thomas, who attended the AFP/TBR conference last year, said to me: “I would like to see some reciprocity from the Arabic side for our support of the Arabs.”
Now, as you know, the most famous white nationist in the world is currently David Duke, and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran both invited him to Teheran for the Holocaust revisionist conference, and then publicly shook hands with him, and met also privately with him for several hours.
Duke's remarks have been carried by the Iranian news media, and also by Syrian radio and TV. Are you a wiser figure than President Ahmadinejad of Iran or President Assad of Syria?
For fear of the Jews, you tell me that we white nationists may not speak -- just support "my" conference to the hilt. And there you are forgetting again: without Joe and Willis and others such as I and Stan Hess, there would have been no conference, and without me there would have been no second day at all.
Don’t you see that you are unconsciously echoing the Jews themselves? You say that white nationists shall have no voice -- just pay up, shut up, and support other races in their liberation struggle. As usual.
That mentality ended at this conference. And the best speeches, by general consent, were by us white nationists and the black nationists, especially by “Sister Mickie” (Joadiah Hunter). Of course, you walked out and missed them all.
The whole Sunday session -- half the conference -- was saved, frankly, by me getting that ballroom with the help of another white nationist from VNN, Mark Knop. (By the way, VNN is not a group but “Vanguard News Network.” They had every legitimate right to cover the conference -- as a news and discussion organization.)
I spent about $40 on cell phone calls to various hotels and meeting places to save the conference, and $100 myself on chairs and then on their removal afterward. I and Margaret have lost about $1,500, sacrificed for the good of this conference -- because Joe Fields and Mike Piper both asked, just days before the conference, that we do come out and speak.
The Jews were going to try to shut down and to blast the conference no matter who the speakers were, because:--one, you wrote a book No Beauty in the Beast, ripping the Jews to shreds (and a great book it is!);
--two, you write for Willis Carto publications such as American Free Press AND The Barnes Review, and attended Willis' AFP/Barnes Review conference last year (where you also bravely spoke up against Neturei Karta hypocrisy about the Talmud);
--and three, Joe Fields was involved from the get-go.
This conference had "white nationist" and "anti-Jewish" written all over it from the beginning.
Don't blame us for what the Jews do TO us. And I am surprised that you, a Christian, Mark, would call me (below) an ”SOB.” We white people built this country, and without us whites in America and Russia rising again your Arab cause will never succeed. The Arabs outnumber the Israelis over 40 to 1 and still Israel exists. You will also see how the coming Chinese superpower allies itself more and more openly with the Jews.
The only powerful group that can and will stop the Jews is the people of European heritage, with their one billion population, their immense wealth, their creative genius and their matchless courage, all proved over the course of thousands of years of great achievements, and shown most of all by Germany.
Mark, we whites do not exist any more as objects for others to use, whether to be used by allies or by enemies; that is over.
We have our own proud identity and we will prevail. Again, you should have accepted my polite, respectful and well thought-out proposal to end the "merely anti-Zionist" conference on Saturday evening -- and make a separate conference on Sunday with a different name, different signs at the podium, a different moderator and different speakers. You did not even respond to my email. And now you complain.
Next time you can have your own conference, which will be the umpteenth conference without any impact of the peaceniks and the Arab-Americans, and which the Jewsmedia will ignore, downplay or defame. You saw yourself a few months ago how pitifully small the Arab-American protest on the Mall in Washington was. Your Arab-Americans need us whites to join you. But not as Generic Americans, as “white, non-Hispanics”; we are European-Americans, we are proud, and with the help of my leadership we are now organizing.
I marched just a few weeks ago here in Washington in another anti-war rally, and the media did not even mention it. We marched by our thousands through empty streets, past empty government buildings, with only Mexican construction workers looking on in blasé incomprehension. Not a word in the Washington com-Post.
And that is all the publicity – zip, nada, nothing – your vision of a "No More Wars for Israel” conference would have gotten without us white nationists. Your dream of CNN coming to cover you was unrealistic from the start. It is clear that, after only a few years in the anti-Zionist cause, you lack experience of how things really operate in the Jew-wars. The Jews always defame -- or they ignore, unless they decide to sabotage, railroad and assassinate. And now I am plunging – politically, directly -- into that hell for all of us, with you taking potshots from the side, for fear of the Jews.
The real problem was that you -- who are half-white through your father but favor only your Arabic side -- and Joe Fields, who is all-white and is a white nationist, have two very different agendas. I solved that problem of the two agendas with my proposal for two different conferences, and I saved the Sunday session by getting the ballroom, food and chairs. And, through YouTube, and my camera people, NMWFI conference speeches will go out on the Internet to thousands and perhaps some day, to millions.
Without my help, and help from other white nationists such as my friend Pete Papaheraklis, who talked with his fellow Greeks to get the church for Saturday's session, the Jews would be chortling today online about how they “shut us down.” Well, they didn't, Mark. We beat them.
Hesham Tellawi wanted to cancel the whole conference. Joe Fields said no. He took a firm stand. We showed backbone. We white nationists were right; the conference went on; and the Jews failed.
Rather than rip into allies, such as me and Joe, you should rip into the Jews who made us all miserable, and always will until we prevail through united struggle. I called them in my speech fearlessly what they are, the Eternal Jew. And the Jew’s main goal is self-censorship, that we censor ourselves out of fear.
Mark, you are, unconsciously, taking the Jewish position, which is that white nationists should have no right to speak -- "for fear of the Jews."
But as I said in my speech -- and it, Margaret's speech, Stan Hess's and Joe Fields’ are all going up tomorrow on YouTube -- without the white giant arising from his slumber, your Arabic world is also doomed. We white nationists are the key to saving both our and your people. And we white nationists will arouse our sleeping white brothers -- one billion white people -- against our common foe, the monster of Zionism. Once you simmer down, you will probably reflect on the continuing need for a white-Arabic/Muslim strategic alliance of reason. But the alliance cannot be one-way.
We were friends, and I intensely admired your courage and your excellent writings, and we have exchanged many friendly emails. I hope we can again be friends, or at least stay allies. But if you attack white nationists, you are biting the hand that feeds you -- and forgetting what I said in my speech: The white nationist movement is the only hope for the world’s liberation from the enemy of all peoples and races, Talmudic Zionism.
Love and kisses
John de Nugent
P.S. I am going to post my version of events on Stormfront, VNN, Liberty Forum and on my own website as soon as it goes up. I hope that I will not need to fire back any further. After all, Mark Glenn, you did hundreds of hours of great work for this conference, and I thank you for all your work and all your many important sacrifices of time, money, anguish and sleep. Join the crowd..... You have now gotten your "Purple Heart" as I did 30 years ago when I was nearly murdered in the Marines, nearly thrown over a warship at night, for my stance.
I was planning, Mark, to only say that “some Arab-Americans walked out in protest against VNN radio carrying the conference live.” I was not planning to write in anger against you for attacking me and calling me an “SOB” in the email below.
As for Hesham Tillawi, whom I have always appreciated, he needs to be careful what speculation he spreads. When I collected money for the rent on the ballroom, I had to put $42 of my own money in the kitty to get the $500 together to pay for the ballroom where you and he sat and enjoyed the speeches -- on the chairs and at the venue I made possible. It was also my own appeal by phone Saturday to my own supporter in Canada that got us the first $500 toward the total $1,000 ballroom bill. Remember, had I and my fellow white nationists not pitched in, the ADL and Morris Dees would be crowing today: "The conference by the Jew-hating Lebanese-American Mark Glenn was shut down when every hotel refused to take them in." That is the gloating remark I helped prevent, which also made you look good. They will always defame you, Mark, but they can never say your conference failed to come off.
In any case, by walking out on the conference Sunday night, you showed successfully to one and all that you do not support the cause of white survival and that you distance yourself from our Cause -- to reduce heat on you from the Jews. You had your successful two-day conference AND you had your walkout to boot to show you do not support us, though we support you. Let's keep on, however, as allies, despite this inevitable friction between your view and ours -- and your refusal to permit two separate conferences to go ahead, which would have met all your own demands.
I just now saw that you have issued a statement, dated October 19, acceding to my pre-conference proposal from October 8, recognizing the existence of two separate conferences. As far as I am concerned, your statement saying there were two separate conferences should therefore end our hostilities -- for the sake of the common anti-Zionist cause. And I congratulate you for this wise move. We are two different armies, marching separately, but let us both strike incessantly the hate-filled foe of all mankind, whom the New Testament calls “the synagogue of Satan.”
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Thanks to BEAJ for this transcript.
This email is in response to your email (below) blasting me, and another by Wendy Campbell blasting white nationists as "unsavory characters" -- after we made this conference happen.
The "No More Wars for Israel" conference, with our white nationist help, survived being pitched out of our hotel. Both days on the program were held, and with my help it went out on Internet radio VNN and soon four key speeches from the conference will go out on YouTube. Some will say that the speeches I, Margaret Huffsticker and Stan Hess gave were very important events. One can judge this when the YouTube videos go up tomorrow.
First, whatever your ironic remarks, my legal name is John de Nugent. I legally changed it from John Nugent in 2004. De Nugent was the original family name for centuries. (Google “Gilbert de Nugent.”)
Secondly, this conference was never yours with which to do exactly as you pleased. The conference was Joe Fields’ from the beginning a year ago, and only after he was defamed and slandered by some who apparently hoped to prevent it from taking place, did you “come on board ship” as a second person organizing the conference. It has always been a duumvirate, a rule of two men. But I think you forgot that. If you object to us white nationists, for fear of the Jews and what they would say, you should have withdrawn from the conference as you threatened to do in an email. Instead, you stayed and then complained throughout.
Thirdly, Willis Carto, who runs your newspaper columns,and Joe Fields are white nationists just as I am. And without us white nationists, there would have been no conference. Without our money, our mailing lists, our activists and our speakers the conference would have collapsed.
And without me, there would have been no Sunday session location at all, and no chairs or food either for the crowd at the nine-hour-long (and wonderful) Sunday session, after Jew pressure drove us into that industrial park and its ballroom, with no restaurants nearby. I organized the massive “17-pizza expedition,” hustling around personally, taking pizza orders and collecting funds -- and please assure Hesham Tillawi there was no Pepperoni Pizza Plot to bring back pork-containing pepperoni!
Fourthly, without us white nationists, you would have gotten no publicity at all. The major media ignored the conference -- as I knew they would, based on 30 years of my own anti-Zionist experience, which you do not have.
Now I note that your friend Wendy Campbell, who spoke at the conference and attended along with her very Jewish-named, Jewish-acting and Jewish-looking friend Mark Green, has now put out her own "for fear of the Jews" reference to us white nationists at the conference as "unsavory characters."
In fact, she did so several times, and when drunk at the hospitality suite she also reiterated to one and all how much she despises us white nationists.
My question is this: Are white nationists unsavory for you, too? I note that you received a check for $3,000 from Willis Carto for the conference. I assume his money was not unsavory.
I further note that you, with Lebanese ancestry, support the Lebanese and other Arabic peoples. Do we have your permission to likewise support our European and European-American peoples? Or is only OUR nationism as whites "unsavory," but yours is okay?
Fifthly, I proposed to you on October 8th in response to your complaints (see my email below!) that we white nationists -- who were the bulk of the attendees and supporters -- hold a separate conference on Sunday -- and that the "No More Wars for Israel" conference distinctly end on Saturday night.
You rejected my common-sense proposal. Why? In response to your attack, my proposal is to be found below.
Even though you did not even answer my email, I still tailored my speech, and Stan Hess his, to your need for ethnic inclusivity. Once again, we whites have bent over backward to accommodate others.
Here is the footage (still raw and unedited) of the first third of my and Margaret Huffstickler's speeches. (The full versions should be up tomorrow of all four final speeches -- mine, Margaret's, Stan Hess' and Joe Fields' -- on YouTube.)
John de Nugent's speech video – raw footage of first third:
NOT “white supremacist” in tone but inclusive, just as I pledged to you, Mark.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XkAPV-uXlsQ
Margaret Huffstickler's speech video – raw footage of first third;
NOT “white supremacist” in tone but inclusive, as I promised you, Mark Glenn.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xb8e4gKPVaI
The conference succeeded despite Jewish machinations -- to a huge extent because of the hard work of white nationists.
Joe Fields, who originated the conference, and who did an enormous amount of work for it, would not let you remove white nationists from the speakers list. Margaret Huffstickler, I and Stan Hess were among the first ones to commit to Joe's conference, long before you were in the picture, and that was back when he was still being actively defamed and character-assassinated. We stand by our friends, Mark.
I, Margaret Huffstickler and Stan Hess kept our word that I gave to you, and gave speeches at the conference -- which you had already walked out of -- that were multiracial in their appeal and were extremely well-received. I praised Muslim and Arabic peoples in the very beginning of my remarks, and saluted attendees of African-American heritage. I bent over backward to accommodate your demands.
But here is the greater context:
First, Israel -- the miscreant targeted by this conference -- is all Jews in the world. The “State of Israel” is just one part of Israel, one political entity and segment, because Israel is the Jewish people everywhere. The most sacred Jewish prayer on the High Holy Days is “Hear, O Israel: the Lord thy god is one God.” All Jews are thus Israel, all Jews are self-proclaimed Israelites, and my speech addressed that entire Israel.
Secondly, we white nationists have all marched for the Palestinians, written articles for the oppressed Arabs and I myself have even been a member of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee and sent them money. As a white man, I have supported your people.
But is there any reciprocity? Any Arab support for us whites? We whites are truly the Palestinians of North America and Europe. We are crushed in our own homelands, forbidden to speak, ethnically cleansed from the streets of our cities, suburbs, towns and villages everywhere, dying out through a Jew-promoted depression of our birth rate, through abortion, homosexuality, white guilt and the general fear whites have that their kids will have no future as whites -- or can be happy, or be raised to be well-behaved in a Jewish cultural cesspool. Your Arabic peoples are at least not dying out; only we whites are.
All this is the work of the same Jew who oppresses and commits genocide on your people. Yet for fear of the Jews you condemn me, your staunch ally who helped save this conference to which your name was attached.
The Dalai Lama just was honored at the White House and said: "If things do not change, we Tibetans will become an insignificant minority in our own country." That is what we whites face in every single white country -- that the Jews are slowly killing us off psychologically -- and soon, as in South Africa and as the Bolsheviks did in Russia to the tune of 40 million, they will begin killing us off physically as individuals and then en masse, by the millions. We are facing genocide. We are the Palestinians of our own homelands. Do you, Mark, care about US -- as we care about YOU?
Or do we whites exist only as paying fodder and attendee fodder for your apparent dream of an Arab-agenda conference – which the Jewsmedia, predictably, did not cover in any case?
As a very fine young white nationist, Evan Thomas, who attended the AFP/TBR conference last year, said to me: “I would like to see some reciprocity from the Arabic side for our support of the Arabs.”
Now, as you know, the most famous white nationist in the world is currently David Duke, and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran both invited him to Teheran for the Holocaust revisionist conference, and then publicly shook hands with him, and met also privately with him for several hours.
Duke's remarks have been carried by the Iranian news media, and also by Syrian radio and TV. Are you a wiser figure than President Ahmadinejad of Iran or President Assad of Syria?
For fear of the Jews, you tell me that we white nationists may not speak -- just support "my" conference to the hilt. And there you are forgetting again: without Joe and Willis and others such as I and Stan Hess, there would have been no conference, and without me there would have been no second day at all.
Don’t you see that you are unconsciously echoing the Jews themselves? You say that white nationists shall have no voice -- just pay up, shut up, and support other races in their liberation struggle. As usual.
That mentality ended at this conference. And the best speeches, by general consent, were by us white nationists and the black nationists, especially by “Sister Mickie” (Joadiah Hunter). Of course, you walked out and missed them all.
The whole Sunday session -- half the conference -- was saved, frankly, by me getting that ballroom with the help of another white nationist from VNN, Mark Knop. (By the way, VNN is not a group but “Vanguard News Network.” They had every legitimate right to cover the conference -- as a news and discussion organization.)
I spent about $40 on cell phone calls to various hotels and meeting places to save the conference, and $100 myself on chairs and then on their removal afterward. I and Margaret have lost about $1,500, sacrificed for the good of this conference -- because Joe Fields and Mike Piper both asked, just days before the conference, that we do come out and speak.
The Jews were going to try to shut down and to blast the conference no matter who the speakers were, because:--one, you wrote a book No Beauty in the Beast, ripping the Jews to shreds (and a great book it is!);
--two, you write for Willis Carto publications such as American Free Press AND The Barnes Review, and attended Willis' AFP/Barnes Review conference last year (where you also bravely spoke up against Neturei Karta hypocrisy about the Talmud);
--and three, Joe Fields was involved from the get-go.
This conference had "white nationist" and "anti-Jewish" written all over it from the beginning.
Don't blame us for what the Jews do TO us. And I am surprised that you, a Christian, Mark, would call me (below) an ”SOB.” We white people built this country, and without us whites in America and Russia rising again your Arab cause will never succeed. The Arabs outnumber the Israelis over 40 to 1 and still Israel exists. You will also see how the coming Chinese superpower allies itself more and more openly with the Jews.
The only powerful group that can and will stop the Jews is the people of European heritage, with their one billion population, their immense wealth, their creative genius and their matchless courage, all proved over the course of thousands of years of great achievements, and shown most of all by Germany.
Mark, we whites do not exist any more as objects for others to use, whether to be used by allies or by enemies; that is over.
We have our own proud identity and we will prevail. Again, you should have accepted my polite, respectful and well thought-out proposal to end the "merely anti-Zionist" conference on Saturday evening -- and make a separate conference on Sunday with a different name, different signs at the podium, a different moderator and different speakers. You did not even respond to my email. And now you complain.
Next time you can have your own conference, which will be the umpteenth conference without any impact of the peaceniks and the Arab-Americans, and which the Jewsmedia will ignore, downplay or defame. You saw yourself a few months ago how pitifully small the Arab-American protest on the Mall in Washington was. Your Arab-Americans need us whites to join you. But not as Generic Americans, as “white, non-Hispanics”; we are European-Americans, we are proud, and with the help of my leadership we are now organizing.
I marched just a few weeks ago here in Washington in another anti-war rally, and the media did not even mention it. We marched by our thousands through empty streets, past empty government buildings, with only Mexican construction workers looking on in blasé incomprehension. Not a word in the Washington com-Post.
And that is all the publicity – zip, nada, nothing – your vision of a "No More Wars for Israel” conference would have gotten without us white nationists. Your dream of CNN coming to cover you was unrealistic from the start. It is clear that, after only a few years in the anti-Zionist cause, you lack experience of how things really operate in the Jew-wars. The Jews always defame -- or they ignore, unless they decide to sabotage, railroad and assassinate. And now I am plunging – politically, directly -- into that hell for all of us, with you taking potshots from the side, for fear of the Jews.
The real problem was that you -- who are half-white through your father but favor only your Arabic side -- and Joe Fields, who is all-white and is a white nationist, have two very different agendas. I solved that problem of the two agendas with my proposal for two different conferences, and I saved the Sunday session by getting the ballroom, food and chairs. And, through YouTube, and my camera people, NMWFI conference speeches will go out on the Internet to thousands and perhaps some day, to millions.
Without my help, and help from other white nationists such as my friend Pete Papaheraklis, who talked with his fellow Greeks to get the church for Saturday's session, the Jews would be chortling today online about how they “shut us down.” Well, they didn't, Mark. We beat them.
Hesham Tellawi wanted to cancel the whole conference. Joe Fields said no. He took a firm stand. We showed backbone. We white nationists were right; the conference went on; and the Jews failed.
Rather than rip into allies, such as me and Joe, you should rip into the Jews who made us all miserable, and always will until we prevail through united struggle. I called them in my speech fearlessly what they are, the Eternal Jew. And the Jew’s main goal is self-censorship, that we censor ourselves out of fear.
Mark, you are, unconsciously, taking the Jewish position, which is that white nationists should have no right to speak -- "for fear of the Jews."
But as I said in my speech -- and it, Margaret's speech, Stan Hess's and Joe Fields’ are all going up tomorrow on YouTube -- without the white giant arising from his slumber, your Arabic world is also doomed. We white nationists are the key to saving both our and your people. And we white nationists will arouse our sleeping white brothers -- one billion white people -- against our common foe, the monster of Zionism. Once you simmer down, you will probably reflect on the continuing need for a white-Arabic/Muslim strategic alliance of reason. But the alliance cannot be one-way.
We were friends, and I intensely admired your courage and your excellent writings, and we have exchanged many friendly emails. I hope we can again be friends, or at least stay allies. But if you attack white nationists, you are biting the hand that feeds you -- and forgetting what I said in my speech: The white nationist movement is the only hope for the world’s liberation from the enemy of all peoples and races, Talmudic Zionism.
Love and kisses
John de Nugent
P.S. I am going to post my version of events on Stormfront, VNN, Liberty Forum and on my own website as soon as it goes up. I hope that I will not need to fire back any further. After all, Mark Glenn, you did hundreds of hours of great work for this conference, and I thank you for all your work and all your many important sacrifices of time, money, anguish and sleep. Join the crowd..... You have now gotten your "Purple Heart" as I did 30 years ago when I was nearly murdered in the Marines, nearly thrown over a warship at night, for my stance.
I was planning, Mark, to only say that “some Arab-Americans walked out in protest against VNN radio carrying the conference live.” I was not planning to write in anger against you for attacking me and calling me an “SOB” in the email below.
As for Hesham Tillawi, whom I have always appreciated, he needs to be careful what speculation he spreads. When I collected money for the rent on the ballroom, I had to put $42 of my own money in the kitty to get the $500 together to pay for the ballroom where you and he sat and enjoyed the speeches -- on the chairs and at the venue I made possible. It was also my own appeal by phone Saturday to my own supporter in Canada that got us the first $500 toward the total $1,000 ballroom bill. Remember, had I and my fellow white nationists not pitched in, the ADL and Morris Dees would be crowing today: "The conference by the Jew-hating Lebanese-American Mark Glenn was shut down when every hotel refused to take them in." That is the gloating remark I helped prevent, which also made you look good. They will always defame you, Mark, but they can never say your conference failed to come off.
In any case, by walking out on the conference Sunday night, you showed successfully to one and all that you do not support the cause of white survival and that you distance yourself from our Cause -- to reduce heat on you from the Jews. You had your successful two-day conference AND you had your walkout to boot to show you do not support us, though we support you. Let's keep on, however, as allies, despite this inevitable friction between your view and ours -- and your refusal to permit two separate conferences to go ahead, which would have met all your own demands.
I just now saw that you have issued a statement, dated October 19, acceding to my pre-conference proposal from October 8, recognizing the existence of two separate conferences. As far as I am concerned, your statement saying there were two separate conferences should therefore end our hostilities -- for the sake of the common anti-Zionist cause. And I congratulate you for this wise move. We are two different armies, marching separately, but let us both strike incessantly the hate-filled foe of all mankind, whom the New Testament calls “the synagogue of Satan.”
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Thanks to BEAJ for this transcript.
Rivero Broadcasts from Far-Right Conference
Rivero promoted, and then reported live from the far-right, white-nationalist conference that masqueraded as "No More Wars For Israel" conference.
Hear the broadcast here:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=26a_1192348034
Rivero heavily promoted the conference, and when the conference was turned away by the venue (because it was obviously such a fascist far-right love-in) Rivero heavily promoted the false pretense that the conference had been refused to go-ahead because it was anti-zionist. In fact the conference was refused because it was a far-right, fascist conference, masquerading as an anti-war conference.
That much is obvious from the list of attendees.
David Duke's website promoted the conference, saying
Hear the broadcast here:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=26a_1192348034
Rivero heavily promoted the conference, and when the conference was turned away by the venue (because it was obviously such a fascist far-right love-in) Rivero heavily promoted the false pretense that the conference had been refused to go-ahead because it was anti-zionist. In fact the conference was refused because it was a far-right, fascist conference, masquerading as an anti-war conference.
That much is obvious from the list of attendees.
David Duke's website promoted the conference, saying
Legendary freedom activist Mike Rivero along with Hesham Tillawi broadcast this event live over their radio programs Saturday, super activists Chuck Carlson, Mike Piper, Rabbi Dov Weiss, Paul Fromm, Wendy Campbell, Dr. Frederick Toben, Eileen Fleming, Patrick Grimm and many more patriots were interviewed, you can hear the full audio report below.http://www.davidduke.com/general/zio-lobby-shuts-down-no-more-wars-for-israel-conference-first-amendment-rights-violated-boycott-of-anti-american-marriott-corporation-urged_2911.html
Rivero and White Nationalist KKK Grand Wizard David Duke
Mike Rivero invited David Duke on his radio show 17 February 2007 to talk about such issues as the jailing of Ernst Zundel.
An audio excerpt is here:
Rivero-and-Duke-17Feb2007.mp3
An audio excerpt is here:
Rivero-and-Duke-17Feb2007.mp3
Rivero's Radio Show featuring racist, fascist Curt Maynard
Here's Mike Rivero featuring Curt Maynard on his radio show:
http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/26537
Not a single mention of Maynard's racism.
Not a single mention of Maynard's fascism.
Not a mention of Maynard's association with Vanguard News Network.
Not a mention that Rivero, along with Maynard helped publicise the NoMoreWarsForIsrael conference. No mention that Rivero and Maynard were well aware the conference was a front - it was in fact a far-right organised conference involving Maynard's and Rivero's Nazi chums Joe Fields (Nordwave), John De Nugent etc.........
This is Rivero's "discretion" - lieing by omission - that he promotes, and leads his readers to organised fascism.
Maynard is a racist, and a fascist. And Rivero knows it. But Rivero puts his readership in touch with Maynard, without ever informing his audience that Maynard is a racist and a fascist.
That is Rivero providing a service for fascism. It's Rivero acting as a recruiter for fascism - Rivero acting as a false front for fascism.
http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/26537
Not a single mention of Maynard's racism.
Not a single mention of Maynard's fascism.
Not a mention of Maynard's association with Vanguard News Network.
Not a mention that Rivero, along with Maynard helped publicise the NoMoreWarsForIsrael conference. No mention that Rivero and Maynard were well aware the conference was a front - it was in fact a far-right organised conference involving Maynard's and Rivero's Nazi chums Joe Fields (Nordwave), John De Nugent etc.........
This is Rivero's "discretion" - lieing by omission - that he promotes, and leads his readers to organised fascism.
Maynard is a racist, and a fascist. And Rivero knows it. But Rivero puts his readership in touch with Maynard, without ever informing his audience that Maynard is a racist and a fascist.
That is Rivero providing a service for fascism. It's Rivero acting as a recruiter for fascism - Rivero acting as a false front for fascism.
Rivero and the "Special Forces Underground"
Rivero was collaborating with a subversive American para-military group, the Special Forces Underground
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/military/commandos/20000918-0010_mz1n18racist.html
Led by Green Beret Steven Barry, the self-proclaimed "commander" of the secretive group of disgruntled US military elite forces members, Barry also served as editor of the quarterly newsletter, "The Resister."
Routine commentary vigorously sanctioned a white supremacist agenda; "The United States military was created by white men for white men to defend a white nation. It wasn't designed as a multicultural, diverse, touchy-feely, huggy-snuggly social experiment in race relations. ... Twenty years ago, you could trust a black to do a job. Now it' s questionable."
The Resister Issue 1 -
http://www.icomm.ca/survival/resister.don/resistr1.htm
The Purported Newsletter of the Special Forces Underground
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This is the first issue to appear of a newsletter by a group calling itself the "Special Forces Underground". This group, embedded deep within the military structure of the United States, opposes the idea of a New World Order along with transfer of the soldiers to United Nations commanders. This document is as I recieved it, outside of HTML formatting changes.
Volume I, Number 1. Summer 1994.
Boxholder, P.O. Box 1403, Addison, Texas, 75001 (Price) GRATIS...
What We Stand For
The philosophy of The RESISTER is straightforward: strict constitutionalism, isolationism, laissez-faire capitalism, individual rights, limited government, and republicanism.
What We Oppose
The RESISTER opposes statism, liberalism, tribalism, socialism, collectivism, internationalism, democracy, altruism, pull politics, and the New World Order...
...Questions to the Middle-Aged Mutant Ninja Animator: Michael Rivero: rivero@accessone.com
.....
The Resister Issue 2 -
http://www.icomm.ca/survival/resister.don/resistr2.htm
The Purported Newsletter of the Special Forces Underground
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Volume I, Number 2. Autumn 1994.
Boxholder, P.O. Box 1403, Addison, Texas, 75001 (Price) GRATIS
...AN OPEN LETTER TO OUR READERS
For the past two months our observers have been reporting that some readers are questioning the integrity of contributors to The RESISTER because they choose to be known by pseudonyms rather then their real names. This is a legitimate concern and it deserves to be answered at length.
First, no contributor is obliged to use a pseudonym, as anybody who has actually READ the first issue can tell you. Second, the decision to require staff members and regular contributors to use pseudonyms was an OPSEC issue, not an ethical one.
Third, there is a historical precedent we follow which, if not already familr to you, in all likelihood never will be, and is therefore none of your business. Fourth, publishing The RESISTER is a security risk in its own right, let alone referring to in tradecraft and organization. Really, what DO they teach you guys in the Q-course these days?
The RESISTER is a response to the altruistic cannibalism which is consuming the principle of inalienable individual rights upon which this nation was founded and which have been served-up in sacrifice to the mob god of democracy, the minority god of tribalism, the nature god of environmentalism, the slave god of collectivism, and the statist god of socialism.
Do you want to know who we are? We are the individuals who conceive the ideas the cretinous mob calls "the team effort." We are the individuals whose excellence is subverted by the racist policy of "equal opportunity." We are the independent, innovative, and creative who have been enslaved to serve the "greater good." Without us you would still be prying roots out of ground with a pointed stick.
It would be a great comfort and convenience for the myriad unconstitutional federal agencies to note us, categorize us, and file us away for future "reference." We will not give them an early chance, nor will we be goaded into identifying ourselves by sneering comments about anonymous writers.
Every whim based, undefined, un-judicable law it passes; every unconstitutional gang of armed badge wielding thugs it deploys; every unconstitutional agency it creates; every incomprehensible special interest regulation it mandates; every dime extorted through taxation and redistributed to the incompetent and undeserving; every American
life lost in some altruistic war, humanitarian assistance, or peacekeeping operation, demonstrates the illegitimacy of the federal government.
The federal government os not "of the people," it is the instrument of pull-peddlers. It is not "by the people," it is the toady of special interests. It is not "for the people," it is the exercise of force for the sake of force.
Pass laws against us; we will not obey. Regulate our activities; we will not comply. Legislate our behavior; we will not consent.
We are freemen. We will not be subjugated. We have the guns to prove it.
THE EDITOR
...Questions to the Middle-Aged Mutant Ninja Animator: Michael Rivero: rivero@accessone.com
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Clearly Michael Rivero has called into question his own integrity as a purveyor of truth with suspicious connections and prejudicial innuendo. It stands to reason that Michael Rivero's intentions for whatreallyhappened is not to promote truth but a contrarian political agenda - just as militant, manipulative, and deceitful as its
opposition.
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:0CfbkbQCwwcJ:jerusalem.indymedia.org/news/2002/12/98414_comment.php+ISBN189330230X&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=uk&client=firefox-a
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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/military/commandos/20000918-0010_mz1n18racist.html
Led by Green Beret Steven Barry, the self-proclaimed "commander" of the secretive group of disgruntled US military elite forces members, Barry also served as editor of the quarterly newsletter, "The Resister."
Routine commentary vigorously sanctioned a white supremacist agenda; "The United States military was created by white men for white men to defend a white nation. It wasn't designed as a multicultural, diverse, touchy-feely, huggy-snuggly social experiment in race relations. ... Twenty years ago, you could trust a black to do a job. Now it' s questionable."
The Resister Issue 1 -
http://www.icomm.ca/survival/resister.don/resistr1.htm
The Purported Newsletter of the Special Forces Underground
----------------------------------------------------------
This is the first issue to appear of a newsletter by a group calling itself the "Special Forces Underground". This group, embedded deep within the military structure of the United States, opposes the idea of a New World Order along with transfer of the soldiers to United Nations commanders. This document is as I recieved it, outside of HTML formatting changes.
Volume I, Number 1. Summer 1994.
Boxholder, P.O. Box 1403, Addison, Texas, 75001 (Price) GRATIS...
What We Stand For
The philosophy of The RESISTER is straightforward: strict constitutionalism, isolationism, laissez-faire capitalism, individual rights, limited government, and republicanism.
What We Oppose
The RESISTER opposes statism, liberalism, tribalism, socialism, collectivism, internationalism, democracy, altruism, pull politics, and the New World Order...
...Questions to the Middle-Aged Mutant Ninja Animator: Michael Rivero: rivero@accessone.com
.....
The Resister Issue 2 -
http://www.icomm.ca/survival/resister.don/resistr2.htm
The Purported Newsletter of the Special Forces Underground
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Volume I, Number 2. Autumn 1994.
Boxholder, P.O. Box 1403, Addison, Texas, 75001 (Price) GRATIS
...AN OPEN LETTER TO OUR READERS
For the past two months our observers have been reporting that some readers are questioning the integrity of contributors to The RESISTER because they choose to be known by pseudonyms rather then their real names. This is a legitimate concern and it deserves to be answered at length.
First, no contributor is obliged to use a pseudonym, as anybody who has actually READ the first issue can tell you. Second, the decision to require staff members and regular contributors to use pseudonyms was an OPSEC issue, not an ethical one.
Third, there is a historical precedent we follow which, if not already familr to you, in all likelihood never will be, and is therefore none of your business. Fourth, publishing The RESISTER is a security risk in its own right, let alone referring to in tradecraft and organization. Really, what DO they teach you guys in the Q-course these days?
The RESISTER is a response to the altruistic cannibalism which is consuming the principle of inalienable individual rights upon which this nation was founded and which have been served-up in sacrifice to the mob god of democracy, the minority god of tribalism, the nature god of environmentalism, the slave god of collectivism, and the statist god of socialism.
Do you want to know who we are? We are the individuals who conceive the ideas the cretinous mob calls "the team effort." We are the individuals whose excellence is subverted by the racist policy of "equal opportunity." We are the independent, innovative, and creative who have been enslaved to serve the "greater good." Without us you would still be prying roots out of ground with a pointed stick.
It would be a great comfort and convenience for the myriad unconstitutional federal agencies to note us, categorize us, and file us away for future "reference." We will not give them an early chance, nor will we be goaded into identifying ourselves by sneering comments about anonymous writers.
Every whim based, undefined, un-judicable law it passes; every unconstitutional gang of armed badge wielding thugs it deploys; every unconstitutional agency it creates; every incomprehensible special interest regulation it mandates; every dime extorted through taxation and redistributed to the incompetent and undeserving; every American
life lost in some altruistic war, humanitarian assistance, or peacekeeping operation, demonstrates the illegitimacy of the federal government.
The federal government os not "of the people," it is the instrument of pull-peddlers. It is not "by the people," it is the toady of special interests. It is not "for the people," it is the exercise of force for the sake of force.
Pass laws against us; we will not obey. Regulate our activities; we will not comply. Legislate our behavior; we will not consent.
We are freemen. We will not be subjugated. We have the guns to prove it.
THE EDITOR
...Questions to the Middle-Aged Mutant Ninja Animator: Michael Rivero: rivero@accessone.com
--------------
Clearly Michael Rivero has called into question his own integrity as a purveyor of truth with suspicious connections and prejudicial innuendo. It stands to reason that Michael Rivero's intentions for whatreallyhappened is not to promote truth but a contrarian political agenda - just as militant, manipulative, and deceitful as its
opposition.
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:0CfbkbQCwwcJ:jerusalem.indymedia.org/news/2002/12/98414_comment.php+ISBN189330230X&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=uk&client=firefox-a
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S Boyle, BankIndex.com, Whatreallyhappened.com.......
S Boyle wrote an article about the apparent connections between Mike Rivero of WhatReallyHappened.com and, amongst other things, BankIndex.com and the SpecialForcesUnderground.
BankIndex.com responded with threats of legal action, seemingly based on their assertions that S Boyle was completely wrong to make any connection between Rivero/WRH and BankIndex.com.
But we have a letter to a US attorney which somehow manages to give Rivero's address as IDENTICAL to that of BankIndex.com. Here: http://www.stopseaboard.net/CriminalReferralGeorgeMeredith.htm
It says:
S Boyle had said that:
Clearly those are all the same address. And yet, S Boyle was threatened with legal action by BankIndex.com for making an association between BankIndex.com and Michael Rivero / WRH.
Here are the emails BankIndex.com sent to S Boyle, threatening legal action for making what they claim are spurious connections and insinuations about BankIndex.com having a relationship with Mike Rivero/Whatreallyhappened.com:-
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BankIndex.com responded with threats of legal action, seemingly based on their assertions that S Boyle was completely wrong to make any connection between Rivero/WRH and BankIndex.com.
But we have a letter to a US attorney which somehow manages to give Rivero's address as IDENTICAL to that of BankIndex.com. Here: http://www.stopseaboard.net/CriminalReferralGeorgeMeredith.htm
It says:
Michael Rivero
20500 W. Country Club Drive
Aventura, Florida 33180
S Boyle had said that:
Bankindex.com (defunct) is/was owned by PMC4.com LLC
GoOff.com is ALSO owned by PMC4.com
GoOff.com AND Bankindex.com each carried their own interview with Rivero - apparently written by one J Conti.
"BankIndex.com is a division of the PMC4, LLC family.
The PMC4, LLC Corporate Office is located in Aventura Florida."
www.bankindex.com/company/contactus.asp
GoOff! lists their address as
20500 W. Country Club Drive
Suite # 814
Aventura, Florida 33180
PMC4 lists their address as
20500 W. Country Club Dr.
Suite 814
Aventura, Florida 33280
Clearly those are all the same address. And yet, S Boyle was threatened with legal action by BankIndex.com for making an association between BankIndex.com and Michael Rivero / WRH.
Here are the emails BankIndex.com sent to S Boyle, threatening legal action for making what they claim are spurious connections and insinuations about BankIndex.com having a relationship with Mike Rivero/Whatreallyhappened.com:-
Bankindex Staff wrote:
Dear S. Boyle;
We would love to reply. Before we do, would you be kind enough to provide us with your real name. We are assuming 'S. Boyle' is your pen name. Also, we would like to know your title and position at IndyMedia, your telephone number and the name and telephone number of the Chief Editor at IndyMedia.
Several articles you have written mentioning Bankindex.com, its managing partners and its associates contain totally erroneous information. You imply the wrong things about the organization its objectives and its affiliations.
You should know that your articles have been brought to the attention of our staff and our attorneys who are currently reviewing them for proper action. We are mystified by your motivations and wonder why you are setting up yourself and IndyMedia for a lawsuit.
We also fail to understand why a respectable organization like IndyMedia would allow its editorial staff to publish your bellicose, slanted and malicious disinformation.
The Bankindex Staff
CC/General Counsel
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Bankindex Staff wrote:
Dear S. Boyle
Obviously you do not wish to come forward. We can get your information by contacting IndyMedia directly, that's not a problem.
We wish to make one thing clear. You will not smear Bankindex.com, its Managing Partners or affiliates and get away with it.
Your "disinformation" essays imply links to "underground" movements and "militants" and we strongly resent that. You also stated Carol Adler's relationship to PMC4, LLC incorrectly, and PMC4, LLC does not own Dandelion.
We are a serious organization whose purpose is to MAKE MONEY! We work above the surface with pride and respect and our company is owned by some of the biggest names in the business.
If any of the essays you have written were to cause any harm to our company or harm the reputation of its Managing Partners you will be liable and we are going to go after YOU and IndyMedia!
As things are now, you are in extremely dangerous waters with the disinformation you have published.
I recommend a full retraction or the complete deletion of what you have written thus far.
The Bankindex Staff
CC/General Counsel
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Bankindex Staff wrote:
S. Boyle,
We are not amateur thinkers. You have been going out of your way for a while now to imply that WRH has underground connections to "militant" groups....a claim that is completely frivolous as well as COMPLETELY GROUNDLESS. You further try to imply that Mr. Rivero works for us or that somehow we finance his operation. And that is exactly the point you are trying to make in your malicious disinformation pieces! By implication you are trying to say that we are part of the same alleged movement! You did not address such claims in your last reply, did you?
We are currently contacting the head of IndyMedia and the matter is being referred to the most prominent Law Firm in Miami.
Your irresponsible comments, poorly done research and maliciousness is going to land you and in a courtroom (without a doubt). And when your real name surfaces, and it will very soon, everyone is going to know who you are and what you have been doing. EVERYONE! Rest assured!
You see, we have nothing to hide. We are a legitimate business operation, but YOU are not!
Again, we strongly suggest that you find a way to remove your publications from the web and that you stop this nonsense. An apology is also in order.
The Staff @ Bankindex
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Bankindex Staff wrote:
S. Boyle
We will be straight forward with you so there are no misunderstandings.
You have correctly identified that we are business minded. The interest in WRH stems from the fact that Mr. Rivero operates one of the most visited news sites in the WORLD! Let us repeat that again, ONE OF THE MOST VISITED NEWS SITES IN THE WORLD!
That makes him very, VERY appealing!
Now, for any deal to take place, an underlying corporate structure is necessary, you agree? Yes, good!
So, when you say this: "business deals do not constitute a complete or even partial agreement of philosophical viewpoints between the parties involved, only a financial transaction." You are correct!
But when you state:
"I believe to made myself quite clear that the importance of the PMC4 connection is the hypocritical anti-corporate stance of WRH and Michael Rivero." You are incorrect! Here's where your reasoning fails you. We doubt that Mr. Rivero is anti-corporate (too broad a term to have used) in the sense you mean it. The gentleman even owns his own corporation!
Moreover, it is not for us to decide what Mr.Rivero means, nor it is for you to do so. From the Bankindex.com viewpoint, we are delighted to be able to interview Mr. Rivero and to have some of our links posted to his site (I am sure even CNN is). You see, the traffic that is derived from just one link on his site is enough to bring down most servers! In addition, did you ever think that perhaps no one else had the guts to do an interview with him? Why must you pursue the sinister angle? If Mr. Rivero�s site were without merit, the staggering statistics from visitors from all corners of the world would simply not exist!
There is no hypocrisy in anything we have done, and above all no tie or connection to any type of group or groups-nor will there be, ever!
When Mr. Rivero�s book is published, we will be glad to carry it in GoOFF.com. That is what GoOFF.com is, a venue built and meant to CAPITALIZE on the UNEXPLOITED CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS. I don�t suppose you are going to start writing about all the authors we are going to be publishing, are you?
The millions of people who visit WhatReallyHappened.com regularly will appreciate Mr. Rivero�s book. They are his fans and they love him.
Our goal is to tap into the fantastically ENORMOUS market the Mainstream has created by virtue of how they do things. There is nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with pursuing that angle. Our concept is as American as grandma's apple pie.
In closing, we respectfully ask that the very least, you correct your prior publications to show our point of view and to include your own statements clarifying what you meant.
Ideally, it would be much better if you stopped this nonsense and removed the entire piece, which we have been told, is possible.
Also, since you seem to have a great deal to say and to write about. You should consider sending in a manuscript to Dandelion Publications. Perhaps we can publish your book at GoOFF.com!
The Bankindex Staff
CC/ Partners and Managers
General Counsel PMC4, LLC
Law Offices of xxxxx and xxxxx
Rivero's Threats - Censorship?
I had been posting at a messageboard for 5 years - hraunfjord.org and would often criticise Mike Rivero's connections to organised fascism, and the obvious sympathies he betrays for the fascist cause, its beliefs, attitudes, perspectives, etc.
Essentially, Mike Rivero acts as a conduit for far-right propaganda - without admitting it, of course. Subterfuge in the service of fascism. Nice?
Eventually Rivero sought to silence such criticism and exposure, writing to the moderator of the board.
Message from Mike Rivero of WhatReallyHappened.com begins here - Note, he mistakes my user name as being "spankmaster":
Interesting, huh?
Several points to be made about this:-
1) I posted a publically available source - a letter to a US State Attorney published on the internet - which contained a reference to a Mike Rivero of Whatreallyhappened.com, and which gave his address. Source is here: http://www.stopseaboard.net/CriminalReferralGeorgeMeredith.htm
2) That address is THE SAME as one given for BANKINDEX.COM
3) Bankindex.com had threatened one S BOYLE with legal action because BOYLE had years earlier written articles suggesting a connection between BANKINDEX.COM and Mike Rivero/Whatreallyhappened.com
4) Rivero asserts the address is that of his brother, and suggests I had published the address with the purpose of "applying coercive pressure" and that this is an example of "an act of terror under the USAPATRIOT act." How could that possibly be so when I didn't know it was actually Rivero's address, let alone that of his brother? Furthermore, the source is a publically available one - it's on the internet.
5) Rivero says "....if Spank Master were to be charged by any of the people named in his numerous postings." Police issue charges - not individual citizens engaged in civil disputes over libel. Does Rivero know more than he's letting on? And what is this, if not A THREAT? Rivero exposes himself as being a hypocrite - he's AGAINST freedom of speech, and employs threats involving "The Patriot Act" and "terrorism"! LOL
6) Rivero says "I do not engage in censorship at my own website..." That's untrue. Rivero deletes certain articles from his website archives - for example, the article where he links to a Swedish Nazi march in support of Ernst Zundel.
7) Rivero says "I do exercise discretion". That's why he hosts articles by the racist, fascist Curt Maynard? That's why he links to Maynard? Thats why he had Maynard on the WRH radio show, without ever once mentioning Maynard's violent racism?
8) What IS the nature of the connection between Rivero and BANKINDEX.COM? And why do Rivero AND James Garib of Bankindex.com seem so keen to avoid the connections between them being made public?
Essentially, Mike Rivero acts as a conduit for far-right propaganda - without admitting it, of course. Subterfuge in the service of fascism. Nice?
Eventually Rivero sought to silence such criticism and exposure, writing to the moderator of the board.
Message from Mike Rivero of WhatReallyHappened.com begins here - Note, he mistakes my user name as being "spankmaster":
------------ Original Message --------
Subject: Your website
From: "Michael Rivero"
Date: Sun, November 30, 2008 4:12 pm
To: trausti (at) hraunfjord.org
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Aloha
I have had my attention callked to a page at your site,
http://www.hraunfjord.org/whatreallyhappened/viewtopic.php?t=8487&start=0&sid=10aaa72efc7249207b798d0ebaff27ff
I understand and support your policy of non-censorship, but I would like
to call two points to your attention. I do not know how things are down in Peru but First Amendment protections for free speech here in the US stop at the point where malice is detectable in the writings, as it is here. Spabnk Master clearly has an ax to grind and he is using your blog as the sharpening stone.
In addition, providing private details such as my brother's previous address for the purposes of applying coercive pressure is defined as an act of terror under the USAPATRIOT act. Given the globalist tendancies in the courts these days, being in Peru might not shield you from being an accessory if Spank Master were to be charged by any of the people named in his numerous postings.
I do not engage in censorship at my own website, but I do exercise discretion, such as not allowing porno, and certainly I do not allow stories (or advertisers) I know to be fraudulent and misleading. It is part of the responsibility that goes with the power of running a blog.
Like it or not, we are the new mainstream, and we have to act like it.
Mike
Michael Rivero
What Really Happened
wrh@whatreallyhappened.com
Interesting, huh?
Several points to be made about this:-
1) I posted a publically available source - a letter to a US State Attorney published on the internet - which contained a reference to a Mike Rivero of Whatreallyhappened.com, and which gave his address. Source is here: http://www.stopseaboard.net/CriminalReferralGeorgeMeredith.htm
2) That address is THE SAME as one given for BANKINDEX.COM
3) Bankindex.com had threatened one S BOYLE with legal action because BOYLE had years earlier written articles suggesting a connection between BANKINDEX.COM and Mike Rivero/Whatreallyhappened.com
4) Rivero asserts the address is that of his brother, and suggests I had published the address with the purpose of "applying coercive pressure" and that this is an example of "an act of terror under the USAPATRIOT act." How could that possibly be so when I didn't know it was actually Rivero's address, let alone that of his brother? Furthermore, the source is a publically available one - it's on the internet.
5) Rivero says "....if Spank Master were to be charged by any of the people named in his numerous postings." Police issue charges - not individual citizens engaged in civil disputes over libel. Does Rivero know more than he's letting on? And what is this, if not A THREAT? Rivero exposes himself as being a hypocrite - he's AGAINST freedom of speech, and employs threats involving "The Patriot Act" and "terrorism"! LOL
6) Rivero says "I do not engage in censorship at my own website..." That's untrue. Rivero deletes certain articles from his website archives - for example, the article where he links to a Swedish Nazi march in support of Ernst Zundel.
7) Rivero says "I do exercise discretion". That's why he hosts articles by the racist, fascist Curt Maynard? That's why he links to Maynard? Thats why he had Maynard on the WRH radio show, without ever once mentioning Maynard's violent racism?
8) What IS the nature of the connection between Rivero and BANKINDEX.COM? And why do Rivero AND James Garib of Bankindex.com seem so keen to avoid the connections between them being made public?
Mike Rivero Denies Hate Crime (Again)
Jan 04 22:50How does it "reek of a staged incident"? It simply doesn't.
Gaza: Gang on rampage in Golders Green
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* COVER-UP/DECEPTIONS
Webmaster's Commentary:
This reeks of a staged incident.
Has Rivero ever been to Golders Green, one wonders? So WTF does he know about it to declare it "reeks" of being "staged"? There's absolutely nothing to suggest it in the article. Article is here.
Without the least reason to justify such suspicion, such declarations by Rivero are clear evidence of prejudice.
Thursday, 1 January 2009
Rivero's Vile Worldview
I guess it's the Christmas spirit, but today Rivero's comments reach another low:
WTF? A "staged hoax"? To "build sympathy"?! What a joke.
The man's anti-semitism knows no limit?
Are shootings of americans mentioned as possible "hoaxes" to "build sympathy"?
Of course, the fanciful notion is supposed to reinforce the idea of Israelis/Jews as masters of subterfuge, which is Rivero's basic premise about "how the world works" - Jews rule, only secretly.
All of which leaves Rivero, and other Americans, free of guilt or responsibility. Because we all know Jews run America, and the poor Americans can't do anything about it........yeah, right.
Revenge attack? Israelis shot in Denmark
Tags:
* COVER-UP/DECEPTIONS
Webmaster's Commentary:
... or staged hoax to try to build sympathy for Israel?
WTF? A "staged hoax"? To "build sympathy"?! What a joke.
The man's anti-semitism knows no limit?
Are shootings of americans mentioned as possible "hoaxes" to "build sympathy"?
Of course, the fanciful notion is supposed to reinforce the idea of Israelis/Jews as masters of subterfuge, which is Rivero's basic premise about "how the world works" - Jews rule, only secretly.
All of which leaves Rivero, and other Americans, free of guilt or responsibility. Because we all know Jews run America, and the poor Americans can't do anything about it........yeah, right.
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