Tuesday 21 July 2009

"WorldNetDaily - Serial Liar"

This from an article about Worldnetdaily:

WorldNetDaily, Serial Liar
Building on its long history of lying about Democratic presidential candidates, WND is now making up things about Barack Obama.

By Terry Krepel
Posted 8/7/2008
If a news organization repeatedly reported falsehoods, would you read it? Of course not.

Yet, somehow, WorldNetDaily remains in business despite a long history of lying to its readers. WND's favorite targets of lies are Democratic presidential candidates.

In 2000, it published a series of 20 attack articles by Charles C. Thompson II and Tony Hays that (it brags) cost Al Gore the election because they allegedly caused him to lose Tennessee, a state that, had he won, would have made the Florida turmoil moot. But the article contained false claims about a Gore supporter, Clark Jones -- a fact it was finally forced to admit more than seven years later to settle a libel and defamation lawsuit from Jones. Not only did WND admit that "no witness verifies the truth" of what was said about Jones, "the sources named in the publications have stated under oath that statements attributed to them in the articles were either not made by them, were misquoted by the authors, were misconstrued, or the statements were taken out of context."
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Amazing how Rivero and Jones can link to WorldNetDaily (WND) articles, and resonate with WND over the same issues, yet somehow Jones and Rivero are seemingly unfamiliar with this story of how the 2000 elections were stolen - not by Bushco, but with the help of WND!

Of course, Rivero and Jones tell us that the elections were "stolen", by Bushco: all more proof of their supposed neo-con (read jewish) bloodless coup.

And yet, go to Google and do a strict search of "Clark Jones" at site:whatreallyhappened.com and one gets ZERO results.

Similarly for Prisonplanet - zero results.

However, try searching for "stolen election" site:prisonplanet.com and it generates 154 results. At whatreallyhappened.com we get 266 results.

And those are just the instances of the specific phrase "stolen election" - they have many more articles and references to the same thing only in other terms.

So, Alex Jones and Mike Rivero - through all their output about the 2000 elections, failed to ever communicate to their audience exactly what their own "pals" at WND did to help "steal" the election for Bushco.

A bit too embarassing for them to acknowledge it? That their friends and fellow travellers were responsible for there being an issue over the 2000 election result.....

Rivero and Jones would doubtless say the NWO was responsible for Bush attaining the presidency - the bloodless coup - fascism - all that.

But never once did they mention WND lies about Clark Jones. Not even after WND settled out of court and issued a joint statement with Clark saying there was no evidence for their accusations.

Despite the outcome of the court case 7 years later, and WND's effective admittance of having fabricated the entire thing, WND still carries their own report from Dec 2000 which brags about their own role in Gore's defeat:
"Whether the mainstream media believed the WorldNetDaily stories were credible or not," said Alexander, "the voters did. I've never seen articles that attracted the kind of attention these did. They cost Gore the margin he needed in middle and west Tennessee. They cost Gore Tennessee's electoral votes. That's a fact."
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....had [Gore] won his home state -- the state he represented all his years in Congress -- he would now be President-elect Gore, with or without Florida.
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Rivero and Jones regularly link to WND - they are familiar with WND. Jones even has WND columnists on his show - like Jerome Corsi.

25 comments:

Tokyo Shemp said...

Hey Tlnl,

You're not gonna believe what I found. Tinoire admitted to being military intelligence.

link

Now she is running some scam of there being a schism between "New Agers" and "socialists." Of course, she portrays herself as a socialist. How that adds up with her promotion of Ron Paul and Michael Rivero beats the heck out of me.

I've also seen a post by Andy Stephenson at DU that had given her props. That guy can be linked directly to Tom Flocco, another tinfoil wingnut type. It's fairly clear that nobodies like us have uncovered a bucketload of nuggets. That's why we were cybersmeared. Myself for instance. I made connections across the blogosphere exposing so-called progressives as disinfo and tied to the hip. The dark side had to thus make me look like a troll. Same thing happened to you. Tinoire was big at Democratic Underground, big at Rigorous Intuition. What a fricken joke the net is.

RigInt is basically a brain focking spam machine, especially Jeff Wells' blog. There is much in the archives connecting all these people to incredible disinfo. People like us get isolated, so the readers have more difficulty deciding or even realising there is a problem. This is referred to as card stacking. Tinoire is a socialist who just so happened to work for military intelligence. Her buddy Michael Rivero hosts neonazis and used to work for the world's largest military contractor. Got cointelpro? {we have ads here that have the slogan of "got milk"}

Hey, I asked you on another post, but why does it say Larry Simons is a twat above this posting box?

Bishops Homegrown said...

You know what the sad shit is, you guys are picking up connections between people and cointelpro and yet your still dumb enough to believe the lie that there is a difference between right and left and dumb enough to promote the lie that if I disagree with you or use a different source of information that I'm somehow a racist or cointelpro, you have fallen for the fucking bait and are in the fucking trap.

The new world order is the real goddamned deal. Clinton, Bush, Obama; it don't fucking matter, they play ball for the same damn team.

the_last_name_left said...

wow. Nice find. I'm a bit - no, not a bit, I'm totally gobsmacked.

I don't have a lot of respect for americans in uniform who talk self-piteously about having their friends die on them - in fucking COLOMBIA.

It takes that? And once MilInt always MilInt. You don't ever lose that sort of attitude imo.

So - bingo - we were right.

Thanks for posting that - thank you very much indeed.

Why does it say "Larry Simons is a Twat"? Because he is. :)

@BishopHomegrown: no difference between left and right?

ok - tell me your views, and we'll see if there's any difference to mine. If there is any difference, then obviously there can just as easily be a difference between left and right. They are just words to describe such differences in opinion that people have. If you have even a little philosophy, you know there are real, deep, fundamental and usually easily discernible differences between points of view - POV's are different because of the basic differences - fundamental differences. You want to say everyone believes the same thing - go ahead - it isn't true and it means nothing to say it.

Of course, as there's no differences between us, you completely agree with me, right? If you disagree with me, then obviously differences are real, and there's nothing surprising about there being differences between "left" and "right".....though the lines separating them aren't always necessarily clear. Either way, you're wrong somewhere, right?

Tokyo Shemp said...

TLNL- Cool with Larry Simons. I never heard of him. There are so many names to cover. It seems like we are the only two people even trying to do this type of stuff.

I had totally stopped thinking about Tinoire. I knew she was military, but I thought she was a regular grunt. I hadn't seen her post about being intelligence anywhere. I think she messed up. It's like when Markos Moulitsas of Daily Kos admitted to being CIA for at least a year plus. They say things in the heat of the moment to gain some gravitas with their audience or to support some agenda. Then some numbnut like me finds out about it later on.

This could definitely be a cottage industry. But when it's just two people...

I noticed some other stuff. This is time consuming. Then when you post it, it's asking a lot of the reader to track down our finds. And we are going with our gut instinct that the audience is even out there.

I've also tracked down some other usernames who were banned by Tinoire who seem to be kindred spirits. There was a DB_Cooper and a RealityBender who both came out against the illuminati kookiness and Hitler references and the turning of Bush and Cheney into movie villians. You were wondering about blog powers circulating info. RealityBender accused Tinoire of giving someone from PI her personal info and that her boss got harrassing emails or something. The following is only in cache, as Tinoire's "socialist" friends deleted the confrontation. I did save the page, if the cache goes missing.

link



To Bishop- Dude, I don't know if you are a racist or cointelpro. I have family who are fans of Alex Jones. But I do see a real problem with you not addressing Maynard's racism or Rivero's ties to McDonnell Douglas or now Tinoire's claim of having been military intelligence. And seriously, how can you say there is no difference between left and right? There's no difference between the free market and a planned economy? There are differences across the board. Sure, some right wingers were against the war to begin with. But have you ever heard of any conservative pacifists? Personally, I see the solutions to the world's problems as being easy. Cut the military by 80%. Ensure all people health care, education, housing, and food. How about the minimum wage? Conservatives have consistently fought against that. Why can't a job be a job? And what about those who keep harping about the Joos? How does a small group of people control the last remaining superpower? I'll give Jones credit for not being overtly anti-semitic like Rivero. But since he interviews him, works with him, it's very tough to separate the two. Tinoire is not a lefty. She has promoted Ron Paul and Michael Rivero. Those guys are freepers and you know it. You don't find it puzzling that Rivero worked for the largest military contractor yet has never mentioned it? How come you have no problem with Tinoire saying she worked for military intelligence? You aren't sickened by Maynard's words? You're supporting World Net Daily? Or are you just here to try to deny us of our freedom of speech and association, to try to divert us from working together on our common interests? Why are you here? Haven't you had your say? At least we are dealing with data, while you are using sophistry. I consider Obama a brick in the wall. He is a modern Republican. It's called triangulation.

Tokyo Shemp said...

Tinoire claims we are the same person


How could she do that? Admins can figure out where people are from. She knew we were two different people.

The "normal chemmies" I had ended up with turned out to be not so normal. Better put, they showed no qualms linking to Rense, Jones, some guy named Maxwell, using the phrase zionasi.... I believe we have been able to tie "tinfoil" to cointelpro-like activities on the internet. The last poster at the above link cross-posted from my cyberstalker. I don't believe that the people messing with us at the WRH forum were different from these people. Tinoire got her slanderous info from Jeff Wells who got it from et in Arcadia Ego. Arcadia Ego was in cahoots with those "normal chemmies" I finally had realised had insidious agendas very similar to those of Tinoire, Rivero, etc.. Tinoire is a spook. I think she is going to delete her forum and slither away like the rat she is. She and all these other fakes have become liabilities to the shadowy intelligence agencies working the net, the ones spreading Jew hate and other convolution. You see, most people suck. They are cowards. Only two of us have really stepped forward. We nailed them. Tinoire is a scumbag right winger. Her real name isn't even Tinoire, though she seems to be trying to astroturf that at facebook. Tinoire is internet cointelpro. I see no other explanation for her activities. None whatsoever.

Bishops Homegrown said...

Lets see, how to address everything?

I'm not a racist, as a matter of fact I have Jewish, Black, and Native American blood. I am an American mutt and proud of it.

As far as Maynard and Rivero, I despise the very idea of racism and thus I despise any idea used to seperate people including the false paradigm of "left" and "right" in American politics, it's all a fucking game used to seperate us and distract us from the real agenda.

I do support many of Ron Paul's views. Small government first and foremost, conservative goverment liberal personal choices.

I listen to Alex Jones just as I do any news, to find the facts and make informed opinions.

I do believe there is a New World Order I also believe in weather modification.

hmmmmm, yeah, maybe I do wear a tinfoil hat.

I do believe that Zionism as a political movement is dangerous, if you want to call me a racist for that then whatever.

It's where I stand.

Tokyo Shemp said...

Well, people who might make a difference are being given good reasons to go with cognitive dissonance. Alex Jones rants like a lunatic. He is also tied to the hip of racists and Jew haters.

People need to deal with the fact that Israel is not going away. The Irish are not going to get Northern Ireland back. I do agree that the Israeli government is totally in the wrong and has been. People seem to forget about the assassination of Rabin. And how can left versus right not matter? Democrats have been the ones to push the peace process. There was Carter. Clinton tried, if I'm not mistaken. The Bush administration totally gave Israel the blank check to do whatever they wanted to. Now we see Obama is putting some heat onto Israel to clean up its act. I think Palestinians should get their own homeland side by side with Israel. Also, civil rights need to be ensured. That is what needs to be done in Northern Ireland. Yet, those on the right crow about having less government. They are against affirmative action and other corrective measures. They have been against minimum wages. Right versus left means a lot. When folks start ranting about some illuminati global conspiracy, they sound like uneducated fools who drank some extra strength kool-aid.

If there was disinfo put out on the internet to hurt the Palestinians while having the facade of caring about their plight, it would look exactly like Tinoire's and Rivero's. Alex Jones is tied to Rivero. That makes him tied to Jeff Rense, Maynard, and other Jew haters. Alex Jones needs to disassociate himself from that pack, or he will always be seen as part and parcel of it.


As for weather modification, yet again I can see "chemtrails" as the storm clouds have started to pass. This time they are above the natural clouds. The atmospheric soundings put the relative humidity at 5-7% where the synthetic clouds are. Thus, those are not contrails.

the_last_name_left said...

Bishop's Homegrown: I'm not a racist, as a matter of fact I have Jewish, Black, and Native American blood.

Well, anyone can be racially prejudiced. If you're not racially prejudiced, then you're not - fair enough.

However, Mike Rivero certainly does pander to racism in his support and promotion of Curt Maynard, for example. And Alex Jones employs Rivero - he has Rivero as a contributor on his show, for example.

Alex Jones also makes extensive use of 'Big' Jim Tucker - in Endgame, for example. Tucker is a long-time colleague of Willis Carto - a leading and very active figure amongst the american far-right: he's an anti-semite, a racist, a fascist. Carto is perhaps N America's leading propagandist for the far-right.

And not only does Alex work with and associate with a long-time colleague of Carto's (Tucker) - Alex is tight with Rivero - whom makes extensive use of Willis Carto's output. Carto's output is far-right propaganda.

If Alex jones were genuinely anti-fascist, what in hell is he doing with these people and their output? I'd love to hear your opinion about that.

Of what use is fascist propaganda to an anti-fascist?

If someone is an anti-fascist, how can they find fascist propaganda of any use? Why use it, if you don't agree with it?

Clearly there's a real issue here, and it's one Alex Jones will not address. Why?

I despise the very idea of racism and thus I despise any idea used to seperate people

Clearly Alex Jones doesn't share your animosity? Alex Jones makes use of Rivero, Big Jim Tucker, and AFP - Willis Carto's nationalist "newspaper".

Why? It hardly shows Alex as a principled anti-fascist when he associates with such people, does it? That isn't guilt by association - it's about the CONTENT. What use is the CONTENT of fascist propaganda to Alex Jones? Why does he provide his audience with CONTENT from far-right/fascist propaganda?

BH: [you're].....dumb enough to promote the lie that if I disagree with you or use a different source of information that I'm somehow a racist or cointelpro

No - absolutely not.

What about the CONTENT of your "different sources"?

If the CONTENT of your "different sources" is straight out of fascist propaganda organs, then anti-fascists are perfectly entitled, and obliged, to protest.

You can claim to not be a racist, but if you believe in, support and defend fascist output......your protests about not being racist are moot. I don't care if you claim you're not a racist - supporting the claims of fascism means you are functioning as an agent of fascism. That means you are supporting racism - even if unwittingly.

BHG: [you're] still dumb enough to believe the lie that there is a difference between right and left

Is there a difference between racism and anti-racism? between fascism and anti-fascism? between fascism and socialism? between socialism and capitalism? between sexism and equality? between central planning and markets? between nationalism and internationalism?

of course there's differences. you might not like the terms "left" and "right" - but you won't ever persuade me there exists no differences between peoples' views.

Left and Right are just crude terms to distinguish these differences - but the differences are absolutely real. Why pretend they're not?

In my experience, the only people whom claim there are no differences are right-wingers. They want to remove the "left" from debate. It's an Orwellian effort at reducing the range of thought.

the_last_name_left said...

BHG: I despise any idea used to seperate people including the false paradigm of "left" and "right" in American politics, it's all a fucking game used to seperate us and distract us from the real agenda.

I don't think so at all. True enough, what is considered "the left" in mainstream american politics is just the left-wing of the business party - whilst the real and radical left is completely ignored. That's the same result as you seek to achieve by saying "there's no left and right".It's you falling into a trap, not I. It's you that is avoiding the real issues - not those of us whom seek to distinguish and pursue a genuinely left (socialist) agenda.

I do support many of Ron Paul's views. Small government first and foremost, conservative goverment liberal personal choices.

Ron paul hates "socialism". And you say there's no differences. Funny thing for Ron paul to hate socialism if there's no difference between his own views and socialism.

And funny thing for you to say there's no difference between left and right, when you believe in "small, conservative government". You don't support socialism, even though according to you it's no different.

See - your position is simply untenable - and it confirms what I said earlier (and what I've said previously many times) that only right-wingers say "there's no left and right".

if there's no difference then why aren't you a socialist? Come on? there ARE differences - and they're important - the differences are *everything*.

I listen to Alex Jones just as I do any news, to find the facts and make informed opinions.

Alex Jones and his chums are a disgrace to journalism.

Can you honestly say that you seek out left-wing radical views on the news? How often do you read Marxist editorials? I'd bet never. If you have some good sources for your daily diet of marxism, I'd love to know it.

Tokyo Shemp said...

It's convenient to believe there is no difference between left and right when spouting tinfoil. That's done for a reason. Then the brownshirts come in with their sophistry about extremes on both sides, and nothing ever gets beyond the gridlock, or we are left with cynical triangulation, good cop versus bad cop, etc.. That the tinfoil is being generated by the right tells me all I need to know. Tinoire is the finest example of how the neonazi wingnuts infiltrated the left-o-sphere.

the_last_name_left said...

Convenient? It's simply ridiculous!

Nice of BHG to continue his argument? Shame - it's an interesting argument, and one I have no chance of losing. :D

Claiming there's no left/right is a fool's game - but it seems to have a power over a certain (ignorant) audience.

I find it astonishing: we're supposed to simply accept the left/right paradigm is wholly false, and then adopt the views of the right, jettisoning socialism. lol. Why don't they jettison their beliefs and adopt socialism if there's no difference? It's just ridiculous.

To get back to the post subject - would Farrah and WND writers accept there's no difference between left and right (socialism and capitalism - socialism and fascism - socialism and liberalism)? No - not for a moment would they do that - so why does anyone expect socialists to do so?

Larry said...

Hey assfuck. Your stories (if I can call the that without laughing my head off) are nothing but unsubstantiated OPINIONS. Wheres the sources, links, videos, researched facts and proof of what you say in your "articles"? Its just paragraph after paragraph of your personal OPINIONS. Wheres the links to the sources? If you hate Alex Jones so much, why do you come to PrisonPlanet EVERY DAY and pose under many different monikers? I KNOW you pose as many people, I can tell by the words you use and how you write and the particular phrases you use. Youre a TROLL and a major FRAUD. Your blog (if thats what you call it) is by FAR one of the worst Ive seen. At least I have the BALLS to post my name---whats YOUR name, COWARD?

the_last_name_left said...

LOL. Larry - you have Tourette's?

You can't write a paragraph without falling into personal insult.

If and when you have something to say, be my guest - I might even respond to it. Until then, I'll just tell you that so far you've said nothing.

And no facts? Didn't you read the part where it says Larry Simons is a hypocritical, censoring, self-worshipping twat?

:)

Or how Alex Jones makes use of 'Big' Jim Tucker - an employee of Willis Carto, N America's leading anti-semite and racist? A fascist.

Or how Mike Rivero - whom features on Alex Jones' show - also makes extensive use of Willis Carto's output - including holocaust denial and promotion of white nationalist conferences posing as pro-palestinian? Or how Rivero's tight with Curt Maynard - interviewing him on his radio show - posting his articles - promoting his website?

None of that is opinion, Larry. It's fact.

Yes, I know you're desperate to distance Alex Jones and the other pseudo Troofers from the fascist anti-semitic far-right - but it just won't wash Larry.

For instance, it is a FACT, is it not, that Alex Jones makes use of Big Jim Tucker in Endgame, and elsewhere? And Big Jim Tucker is a long time associate of Willis Carto - having worked for Carto's The Spotlight, and presently at Carto's AFP.

FACTS, right, Larry?

Just like it's a fact that whilst Alex Jones protests about supposed fascism in American state, he is actually friends and work colleagues with genuine fascists, and people whom regularly consort and work with and for genuine fascists.

And you're also published at Prisonplanet, right Larry? That's a FACT too, isn't it?

Larry said...

I love how you respond to me calling your blog nothing but OPINIONS, by posting MORE OPINIONS! Show me LINKS, VIDEOS, verified sources, researched FACTS about the things you say. All you do is sit behind your keyboard and tap away and type word after word of OPINION. Wheres the links? You post ZERO proof. Just ad hominem attack after ad hominem attack with NO facts cited. You are a fucking disgrace. Its EASY to sit there and just spout off OPINIONS and attempt to pass them off as facts----I could do that! But I DONT. Every single story you see on my blog has links, videos, researched FACTS---every single story. I couldnt find ONE link in ANY story you posted---not ONE.

the_last_name_left said...

LOL - you're fun Larry. Probably not for long.......but....

Does Alex Jones use Big Jim Tucker - in Endgame, and elsewhere?

Yes he does. FACT.

You like links? Here ya go:

As a self-proclaimed authority on the Bilderberg Group, American "journalist" Jim Tucker has a prominent place in [Alex] Jones' documentary Endgame, and has been a guest on his radio show many times.


Does 'Big' Jim Tucker have a long and ongoing relationship with Willis Carto?

Yes he does. FACT.
I didn't know anything else about Tucker until I came across a mention that he had a 20-year association with Willis Carto. Yet another "populist" supporter of George Wallace's presidential campaign, Carto is also a white separatist, a Nazi admirer, an anti-Semite, and Holocaust denier. He established the Institute for Historical Review to propagate Holocaust denialism. His pseudointellectual denialist rag, The Barnes Review, is still in print (Jones favourite Texe Marrs is a fan).
From 1975-2001 his tabloid-style conspiranoia rag, The Spotlight, was America's most infamous anti-Semitic publication. Each issue was packed with Bircher-style conspiracy theories, racist rants, and bizarro "analysis" of current events and world history. David Duke ran for president with Carto's Populist Party in '88.

Where does Tucker come in? Tucker wrote for The Spotlight throughout its 26-year run. When it folded, he co-founded The American Free Press, which toned down the white racist rhetoric just enough to be mistaken for a respectable publication by people who aren't terribly bright (*cough*Dylan Avery, Jason Bermas, Kevin Barrett*cough*).

That writer omits the fact that AFP is also a Willis Carto rag.

All that is already here, Larry.

That you've no idea of these relationships or who these people are is not my problem, Larry - it's yours.

But you should already know all this - you write for Alex Jones, right? Why don't you do something constructive and ask Alex Jones' why he's so tight with so many people closely connected to genuine fascism?

FYI I've been writing about these connections between troofers, paytriots and fascists for hmmm, must be nearly 5 years now.

I would suggest you are perhaps unaware of how much you consider to be "fact" (about 911 for instance) has actually come from fascist propagandists. I ask you simply - do you trust such sources?

Larry said...

Ha! Ha! Ha! I LOVE IT! You FINALLY post links and BOTH links in your post took me to the EXACT SAME WEBSITE AND EXACT SAME STORY ON THE SITE! My God, Im laughing so hard, my ribs hurt!!

What is even more amazing is that every single link I clicked on the LeavingJonestown site took me right back to another story ON THE LEAVINGJONESTOWN SITE! HA! HA! HA! HA!

When I said provide links, I OBVIOUSLY meant provide links from OTHER unbiased sources, like mainstream media reports or video tape showing the proof-----instead, you tak me to ANOTHER website that is chock-full of OPINIONS like YOUR site is! UNBELIEVABLE! You call that links and researched FACT? Linking me to another persons personal blog that links right back to his OWN blog?

Why dont you all just meet and sit in a circle and toss stories off one another? Thats what your doing off here! You link back to each other! My God, my ribs really hurt from my profound laughter! I cant believe I wasted this much time on you!

Im gonna log off and laugh some more! HA! HA! HA! HA!

the_last_name_left said...

Ah - I thought so....dealing with the actual content was too much to ask of Larry.

Larry said...

BRILLIANT comeback---LOL. There WAS no content! That was my entire point! Shit stain! BOTH of your links led to the EXACT SAME story on the EXACT SAME blog! LOL. Im laughing my ARSE off!

Larry said...

I was ignored--naturally, because you were schooled.

the_last_name_left said...

Larry, you spew garbage, and ignore simple questions:

1)Does Alex Jones use Big Jim Tucker - in Endgame, and elsewhere?

2)Does 'Big' Jim Tucker have a long and ongoing relationship with Willis Carto?

Larry said...

HA! HA! I ignore questions???? Answer the SIX questions you IGNORED on the other thread! Here they are AGAIN:

1. WHAT CAUSED THE PERFECT SYMMETRICAL COLLAPSE? Hmmmmm?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

2. Why did buildings that were RIGHT NEXT to the twin towers, in which debris fell RIGHT ON TOP ON, not suffer universal collapse, but WTC 7, the FARTHEST away, that had minimal damage and minimal fires collapsed not only universally, but in perfect symmetry???

3. On videos just prior to WTC 7's collapse, you can hear policemen say "This building is coming down soon"----HOW WOULD THEY KNOW THAT IF A BUILDING HAD NEVER BEFORE IN HISTORY COLLAPSED DUE TO FIRE/DAMAGE?

4. can you explain the plethora of buildings SINCE 9-11 that were fully ablaze where fire consumed the ENTIRE building and burned MUCH longer, even as long as an entire DAY and yet they did NOT collapse? Can you explain that??????

5. Why all the cover-ups about 9-11? Why wasnt an investigation conducted IMMEDIATELY instead of 441 days later?

6. So, I ask you Turd, SHOULD ALEX JONES HAVE DELETED THE COMMENTS ON PP THAT LED POPLAWSKI TO KILL?

The answers to your questions are:

1. Yes

2. I have no idea, and if so...so what?

Now, answer MY questions....or CAN you?

the_last_name_left said...

yes, Larry - you do ignore questions.

Answer my simple, straightforward questions and I will answer your questions (which aren't anything like as simple and easily decided.)

I have no problem in discussing 911......but you clearly do have a problem in addressing what I asked. Just as I maintain - 911 Troof has real problems in even acknowledging the presence of fascism in its ranks - let alone properly addressing it.

Once you've answered my simple questions we can proceed.

Larry said...

I answered your fucking questions!!! Or cant you fucking READ???? My answers to your TWO questions were:

1. Yes

2. I have no idea..and if so, so what???

Now answer MY six questions! By the way, do you realize how ridiculously FOOLISH you look by DENYING I dont answer questions when I have now typed the answers TWICE in consecutive posts?? Heres my 6 questions again, TURD:

1. WHAT CAUSED THE PERFECT SYMMETRICAL COLLAPSE? Hmmmmm?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

2. Why did buildings that were RIGHT NEXT to the twin towers, in which debris fell RIGHT ON TOP ON, not suffer universal collapse, but WTC 7, the FARTHEST away, that had minimal damage and minimal fires collapsed not only universally, but in perfect symmetry???

3. On videos just prior to WTC 7's collapse, you can hear policemen say "This building is coming down soon"----HOW WOULD THEY KNOW THAT IF A BUILDING HAD NEVER BEFORE IN HISTORY COLLAPSED DUE TO FIRE/DAMAGE?

4. can you explain the plethora of buildings SINCE 9-11 that were fully ablaze where fire consumed the ENTIRE building and burned MUCH longer, even as long as an entire DAY and yet they did NOT collapse? Can you explain that??????

5. Why all the cover-ups about 9-11? Why wasnt an investigation conducted IMMEDIATELY instead of 441 days later?

6. So, I ask you Turd, SHOULD ALEX JONES HAVE DELETED THE COMMENTS ON PP THAT LED POPLAWSKI TO KILL?

Im waiting......or are you SCARED to answer? LOL

the_last_name_left said...

Scared to answer? No - just bored with your shouting about questions I have answered for myself a long time ago.

You answer the questions I asked you, and I'll willingly, if resignedly, answer yours.

It makes no difference whether I answer your questions - what will it change? However, your answering my questions will effect something - you will no longer be able to claim ignorance that Alex Jones employs a long-time, close associate of N America's leading fascist propagandist. Clear?

Larry said...

Do you even realize how big of a fucking MORON and IMBECILE you look like when I have REPEATEDLY answered your questions and you come back and say I havent, and then you STUILL dont answer mine? It shows you are a fucking COWARD and a fucking LOSER who loves to spout off his fucking big TRAP about shit he has NO clue about and when you finally encounter someone like me who doesnt give up and buries you with facts, you run and hide and repeat the same phrase over and over ad nauseum and deny things that stare you right in the face---like the answer to your question, that Ive posted FOUR times on 3 different threads---and then you dont keep your promise to answer MY questions. Know why? Because you HAVE NO ANSWER, thats why.

I love it. The old "It makes no difference whether I answer your questions - what will it change?"---so, in other words, you LIED when you said youd answer mine if I answered yours??? Hmmm???

Do you even care what your 2 or 3 readers will say when they come on here and see that I answered YOUR questions but were too chicken shit to address mine---even LYING by saying youd answer mine when I answered yours? Of course you dont care, because youre a mindless fucking troll who thinks heknows ANYTHING when in fact, he doesnt know shit.

I proved you cant handle my questions. I answered yours FOUR times and you are a proven liar. Id do a story on my blog about you if anyone knew or cared who you are, but nobody does. Youre insignificant. Thats why I have more hits in one week than youve had in 18 months. LOL