Monday, 29 November 2010

Rivero - burying Wikileaks because of Israel and 911

Rivero's WRH is ignoring Wikileaks' releases, or where it does mention them, it is entirely critical and dismissive. Odd no? The leaks are extremely damaging to the USA, and hence Rivero should be interested? No, because the leaks show Arab nations urging USA to attack Iran to prevent the threat (to them!) of The Iranian Bomb, completely undermining Rivero's argument which has been that Israel wants Iran destroyed for its own supposed expansionism. Obviously having other Arab/Muslim states fearing an Iranian bomb destroys Rivero's purely anti-semitic slant, so he ignores it, and smears it.

Also, Wikileaks' release seems to provide no evidence for 911 conspiracy whatsoever. That's why Rivero, Alex Jones and the rest of the conspiros submit Wikileaks and Assange to insult and criticism. They even go so far as to suggest these leaks are a deliberate American policy, to defang conspiracism and help a drive to war with Iran etc! Rivero says:
I think Israel did invent WikiLeaks. After all, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange insists there is no 9-11 conspiracy, and not a single criticism of Israel appears anywhere in this latest dump; an impossibility in the wake of the lethal Israeli attack on the aid flotilla last May!
Mental illness beckons, Mr Rivero, if it hasn't taken root already. Mad.

And Rivero even prints Ahmadinejad's response, which sounds just like Rivero himself (Does Iran fund Rivero?)
Iran's president has dismissed as propaganda the leaking of US cables detailing Arab calls for Washington to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said the release by the Wikileaks website of thousands of extracts from US diplomatic messages was simply psychological warfare against Iran.
Whilst ignoring all the content of the leaks, Rivero has published a special page (wooo!) on Wikileaks instead. I think it's what conspiros like to call a "hit piece":
Wikileaks, following much media fanfare (reason for suspicion right there) has just released a huge number of documents supposedly leaked to WikiLeaks and no other websites'. The media is denouncing this as a threat to the United States while US politicians wring their hands and wonder when they will be free of the curse of the First Amendment and all that troublesome nonsense about Freedom of Speech. Many observers think this is a propaganda set up and that neither Julian Assange or WikiLaeks should be taken at face value. After all, Julian Assange keeps insisting there was no 9-11 conspiracy and the 9-11 truth movement a "distraction." Apparently Julian Assange has patented conspiracy and nobody else may expose one except himself!

Of course, there is really not that much that is new in this latest dump. Like prior WikiLeaks dumps, most of it is old news mixed with some rather dubious claims. In his last such dump, Julian Assange included a claim that Osama bin Laden is still alive and controlling Al Qaeda. Of course, it is well documented outside the United States that Osama bin Laden has been dead for many years and that Al Qaeda itself is a fake front group created to hoax Americans into endless wars of conquest, much as the fictional Emmanuel Goldstein was used in George Orwell's "1984."

In yet another infamous propaganda attempt, WikiLeaks tried to claim that weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq, justifying the invasion. No such weapons were ever found.

As for the present batch of documents, again it is a rehash of stories already known to the blog-o-sphere. Even those people who did not know US diplomats spy on their United Nations counterparts did not find it surprising or in any way a new idea.

So what is the real purpose of Assange's little charade? Propaganda.

Propaganda is like rat poison. 95% of it is tasty, healthy food. But the purpose is to get you to swallow the poison. The same is true of the WikiLeaks document dump. The bait are all these old stories which we already knew about, used to convince us that the entire pile is "tasty, healthy food," except that it isn't. Buried in the pile of delicious, albeit past the expiration date morsels are the bits of poison which the US Government knows you will no longer accept at face value from the controlled media, but hope you will eat if handed to you by a con artist posing as hostile to the government.

So, given that 95% of the current WikiLeaks is really old news, as a public service I will point out the bits of poison that Julian hopes you will eat.

1. Iran is bad so you should all want to kill them.

2. Saudi Arabia is bad because they are funding Al Qaeda so you should all want to kill them.

3. North Korea is bad because they gave really long range missiles to Iran for Iran to put their nuclear warheads in, so you should all want to kill them.

4. China is messing with your computers, so you should all want to kill them.

That about sums it up. Oh yes, there is nothing negative about Israel in all these diplomatic messages, an impossibility given the lethal Israeli attack on the Aid Flotilla last May. That suggests who Assange really works for.

Funny thing about rat poison. After a while the rats learn to eat the food and leave the poison behind.
What a complete crock o shite. How has OBL's death been "documented"? Rivero is simply imagining it. lol. And notice how Rivero, a supposed special FX expert doesn't even use a GIF for an image with flat-colour? Again, he's using jpegs when it should be a GIF. He's not just a moron, he's incompetent. Pathetic.


Anonymous said...

I couldn't agree with you more! I'm glad somebody is holding Rivero accountable for his lunacy. I know people who frequent his website on a daily basis, and that scares me.

the_last_name_left said...

Hi anon. Thanks for reading. ;)

I struggle to see how Rivero's schtick can survive all the real-life events which contradict his ridiculous assertions.

I think it's notable how much insight Rivero repeatedly does show on one thing though - propaganda. Somehow he seems to have a good grasp on it. Hmmm - I wonder why? lol

the_last_name_left said...

oh, one of the things which helps Rivero cover his past mis-steps is that the structure of WRH allows no way to link to his comments.

He also has a robots.txt at his website which prevents his site being archived by The Wayback Machine. Why would anyone do that?

It all makes it very difficult to research Rivero's position over time.....unless one runs one's own archive.

Anonymous said...

Yeah I've noticed a lot of that too. However, you can still do a search on his website that still brings up some of his extreme ramblings like his holocaust denial. He also recently posted a bizarre comment about how all the different skin colors of people in the world really mean that we are all separate species.

The people who I know that regularly visit his site don't like it when I bring up some of Rivero's crazy views and associations. For them, it doesn't matter where the criticism of Israel comes from even if it is from someone like David Duke who Rivero posts to sometimes. They justify it by saying "well I don't agree with everything that David Duke says". I personally can't work that way. You can't tell me that on the one hand you're only criticizing Israeli policy and then in the same breath say that you read this great article from Curt Maynard the other day.

the_last_name_left said...

Actually, having just checked, waybackmachine has archived some WRH front pages more recently than I thought - intermitently up to Oct 09.

I noticed WRH disappeared from waybackmachine when I went looking for Rivero's promotion of a Swedish Nazi march which he had headlined as "Swedes march for Ernst Zundel" About June 07, think.

the_last_name_left said...

Missed your reply there, anon, sorry. I completely agree with you.

I had 'friends' who continued taking Rivero seriously long after it was clear he was a nazi-sympathising anti-semite. We're no longer 'friends'. ;) Not that I recommend politics interfering with real friendships, but one can't really help it, imo. Well, not over such extremism at least.

A great article by Curt Maynard? lol. Maynard's world view led him to orphan his own children, shooting his step-daughter in the face having killed her mother in front of her. Nobody could seriously have not expected it as a possibility. It's not "just talk".

the_last_name_left said...

waybackmachine can only archive the WRH frontpage:

Robots.txt Retrieval Exclusion.

We're sorry, access to has been blocked by the site owner via robots.txt.

all pages bar page one are "archives", apparently, therefore unavailable to waybackmachine.

why would Rivero choose to do this? to prevent his hypocrisy and incoherence being laid bare? maybe.....

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I almost forgot that Maynard went nutso and killed his wife and himself. I think it was all because his wife was part Mexican. You have to have a lot of violent hate in you to do something that crazy.

Yeah, my friendship has definitely been strained with the one guy I know who likes to tell anyone who will listen to check out Rivero's website. Of course, I'm usually right there to immediately tell those people what that website is really about. The conversations usually go like this.

WRH reader speaking to someone - "Hey you should check out this website run by this guy in Hawaii. It'll open your eyes to a lot of alternative news that you can't get from the mainstream media."

Me (with a ton of sarcasm) - "Yeah you should check it out, especially if your idea of alternative news includes holocaust denial, 911 conspiracies, and articles from such intellectual luminaries as neo-nazis David Duke, Curt Maynard and Willis Carto."

Usually that stops the conversation dead on its tracks.

the_last_name_left said...

I'm pretty sure nobody I personally interact with knows all those people and their relevance. I'm not sure I'd want to react with sarcasm and stopping conversations if they did understanbd all that tbh - though maybe yours is actually the more appropriate approach rather than my own preference of softly-softly. Well, I try. haha.

I fell for the internet because there was no chance someone could assault me if I upset them with words. Brilliant! In real life I'm a lot more gentle, I think. Maybe Rivero's the same? Or maybe he really is a raving anti-semite and neo-nazi loon? It isn't hard to imagine, is it?

I admit to having recommended Rivero's site to people too - I was attracted to what I saw as its radicalism. And its seemingly novel diversity. But my background is socialism, liberalism, Britain, WW2, nazism and Soviet Union. I loved the American declaration for its content, and I'd read Thoreau's Walden - apart from music America offered me almost nothing else. So WRH was very novel and interesting. To this day Rivero continues to publish articles which appeal to such sensibilities. But of course those articles are published in the same way Nazism would promote leftwing/communist critiques of "western (meaning jewish) capitalism". Rivero will happily publish Guardian articles for example, whether they attack bankers or call for more public spending. No matter that he's suposed to be a (paleo)conservative whom advocates income tax is unconstitutional etc.

Rivero's clearly a shameless opportunist - everything is turned to promote his own position.

Quite simply, nothing exists in Rivero's universe that contradicts him. Ever.

There is no "real" evidence against any of his claims. All evidence which undermines any of his claims, if it exists at all, is the product of nefarious forces working to undermine the genuine will of the American people.

I find it hard to believe one can behave as Rivero does and yet avoid "going-off the deep-end". He is off it? lol

socrates said...

Assange is getting a raw deal, imho, though not anywhere close to what Manning is in for.

As for your schtick on Rivero's schtick in regards to Assange, I totally agree. It makes no sense that he would throw him under the bus. Well, I guess it does because Assange isn't into the "troofer thingie," and a lot of fake lefties and right woos left like Rivero are big fans of the Iranian theocracy. I've seen a bit of this smearjob approach towards Assange by conspiracy theory freaks, whackjobs saying he is a paid fake or whatnot.

The convolution marches on.