tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post6404061085717762529..comments2024-01-03T08:31:24.554+00:00Comments on the_last_blog_left: Rivero's Seditionthe_last_name_lefthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12276770064991215910noreply@blogger.comBlogger160125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-22180240342877697162011-11-07T03:46:37.418+00:002011-11-07T03:46:37.418+00:00Of course America in 2011 is not like America in 1...Of course America in 2011 is not like America in 18 whatever.<br /><br />But it was your argument that it is.<br /><br />That's part of your justification for your sedition. <br /><br />You even argue America today is akin to Nazi Germany.<br /><br />That's another part of your justification for your sedition.<br /><br />You only make yourself more culpable. Carry on.....if you want to go to jail. Idiot.the_last_name_lefthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276770064991215910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-27040467042051068032011-11-06T23:08:01.240+00:002011-11-06T23:08:01.240+00:00Hmmmmm...still no answer.
That's what I thoug...Hmmmmm...still no answer.<br /><br />That's what I thought.Real Truth Onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00545271385276174336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-8526564620766712682011-10-29T23:32:50.083+01:002011-10-29T23:32:50.083+01:00"I didn't know Lincoln was still Presiden..."I didn't know Lincoln was still President. <br /><br />Come on Larry....."<br /><br />Not the point dickface. The point is [and you KNOW this is my point]:<br /><br />Was 1861 like Nazi Germany?<br /><br />ANSWER PLEASE.<br /><br />crickets, crickets, cricketsReal Truth Onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00545271385276174336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-78183512281321577052011-10-29T23:30:08.554+01:002011-10-29T23:30:08.554+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Real Truth Onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00545271385276174336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-12031709353866155002011-10-29T15:29:17.007+01:002011-10-29T15:29:17.007+01:00I didn't know Lincoln was still President.
...I didn't know Lincoln was still President. <br /><br />Come on Larry.....the_last_name_lefthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276770064991215910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-23332997409971475042011-10-29T13:13:56.399+01:002011-10-29T13:13:56.399+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Real Truth Onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00545271385276174336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-35943358493000148602011-10-29T13:13:31.917+01:002011-10-29T13:13:31.917+01:00"Larry says: Gee, I LOOOOVE how you COMPLETEL..."Larry says: Gee, I LOOOOVE how you COMPLETELY IGNORED all my 1861 comments.<br />=====<br /><br />You're the one ignoring my comments and questions."<br /><br />Excellent response--lol. Despite there being actual words there that appear to be a response, do you know what I see?<br /><br />I see this: <br /><br />"I'm still ignoring your questions Larry, because you are 100% CORRECT that the United States in 1861 was NOT like Nazi Germany but yet they STILL had a tyrant [Lincoln] and therefore, they were justified in seceding [because there was DESPOTISM], and since I cannot refute that [because it's impossible] I will keep ignoring you Larry"<br /><br />You even said this:<br /><br />"Despotism: In its classical form, despotism is a state where a single individual (the despot) wields all the power and authority embodying the state, and everyone else is a subsidiary person."<br /><br />Wow, sounds A LOT like Lincoln!!! Lincoln wielded ALL power [he suspended Habeas Corpus, shut down 300 northern newspapers and imprisoned their editors, created a new state [west virginia] WITHOUT proper ratification nor anyone's consent, invaded the south, killed southern civilians and pillaged many southern towns, even deported a United States congressman and issued an arrest warrant for the Chief Justice of the United States--among many other things. <br /><br />Not a dictator/tyrant you say??<br /><br />Not despotism you say???<br /><br />But yet you keep claiming that unless the United States is EXACTLY LIKE NAZI GERMANY, it's NOT tyranny. I just proved to you that tyranny comes in many forms...one of them ---Lincoln---and the states seceded because of it and they had EVERY RIGHT TO. And you can't debunk it! [because it's impossible]Real Truth Onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00545271385276174336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-70103243219900813942011-10-29T04:40:27.765+01:002011-10-29T04:40:27.765+01:00Hilarious.
Larry says: Gee, I LOOOOVE how you COM...Hilarious.<br /><br />Larry says: Gee, I LOOOOVE how you COMPLETELY IGNORED all my 1861 comments.<br />=====<br /><br />You're the one ignoring my comments and questions.the_last_name_lefthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276770064991215910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-63282569162617147492011-10-28T21:31:30.056+01:002011-10-28T21:31:30.056+01:00Gee, I LOOOOVE how you COMPLETELY IGNORED all my 1...Gee, I LOOOOVE how you COMPLETELY IGNORED all my 1861 comments. Hmmmm, I wonder why. There you go again, IGNORING comments that you can't possibly debunk. So, as usual, I will ask them again:<br /><br />"Here's a question for you:<br /><br />Was the USA in 1861 like Nazi Germany?? [I am quite aware Nazi Germany came AFTER 1861----but my point is---were they alike?]<br /><br />Since you LOVE to continually use Nazi Germany as the standard for tyranny---it begs the question---was the country in 1861 like them?<br /><br />But yet they SECEDED---and why? They had EVERY RIGHT to. This is why hundreds of NORTHERN [did you catch that? I said NORTHERN] newspapers SUPPORTED the secession of the South--and its why Lincoln had them all shut down and threw their editors in prison. Now WHY would Lincoln throw NORTHERN newspaper editors in prison??? HUH??? HUH?????????<br /><br />BECAUSE HE WAS VIOLATING THE CONSTITUTION. HE WAS TRAMPLING ON STATES RIGHTS. HE WAS CALLING SECESSION TREASON-----[but our founding documents PERMIT IT]."<br /><br />I can list like 15 things right now about today's world [in 2011] that are worse than in 1861. Would you like me to???<br /><br />You don't think Lincoln was a tyrant??? Oh god, PLLLLLLEASE say "no" so I can DESTROY you with fact after fact that will humiliate you.Real Truth Onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00545271385276174336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-84131746200779534352011-10-28T16:13:03.985+01:002011-10-28T16:13:03.985+01:00Sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against t...Sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power. Sedition is encouraging one's fellow citizens to rebel against their state.<br /><br />FULL STOP.<br /><br />Rivero is engaging in sedition.<br /><br />Yes or NO, Larry??the_last_name_lefthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276770064991215910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-78584359158361113052011-10-28T16:09:55.671+01:002011-10-28T16:09:55.671+01:00ABSOLUTE DESPOTISM
Despotism: In its classical fo...ABSOLUTE DESPOTISM<br /><br />Despotism: In its classical form, despotism is a state where a single individual (the despot) wields all the power and authority embodying the state, and everyone else is a subsidiary person. This form of despotism was common in the first forms of statehood and civilization; the Pharaoh of Egypt is exemplary of the classical despot.<br />The term now implies tyrannical rule. Despotism can mean tyranny (dominance through threat of punishment and violence), or absolutism; or dictatorship (a form of government in which the ruler is an absolute dictator, not restricted by a constitution, laws or opposition, etc.).<br />=========<br /><br />So, absolute despotism? In the USA today? You're kidding. If you really think so, it's a measure of how out of touch you are, that's all.the_last_name_lefthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276770064991215910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-72032978557302069702011-10-28T16:06:03.166+01:002011-10-28T16:06:03.166+01:00L: There you go, using Nazi Germany as the standar...L: There you go, using Nazi Germany as the standard of tyranny AGAIN<br />====<br /><br />You brought it up first. And it certainly is a reasonable measure of "tyranny".<br /><br />All a sudden you don't want it raised, because you know the USA is nothing like it, and there goes your justification for your sedition. <br /><br />L/RTO: Thomas Jefferson would DISAGREE. <br />====<br /><br />How in hell do you know?<br /><br />Did you miss this qualifier?<br /><br />"Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes"<br /><br />So there needs be good cause. It's given as <br /><br /><b>"a design to reduce them under absolute despotism"</b><br /><br />That doesn't exist. Nazi Germany - yes, obviously. Present-day America? No, obviously not.<br /><br />You can rant all you like, doesn't change a thing.the_last_name_lefthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276770064991215910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-29606481964398420262011-10-28T15:14:21.692+01:002011-10-28T15:14:21.692+01:00"Now, let's have your explanation of the ..."Now, let's have your explanation of the difference between sedition against, say, Nazi Germany, and against the present-day USA?"<br /><br />There you go, using Nazi Germany as the standard of tyranny AGAIN---something you keep DENYING you do!<br /><br />"Trying to overthrow a democratically elected government (one which also holds to a Bill of Rights) is an obvious case of sedition and is anti-constitutional."<br /><br />NO ITS NOT!!! Thomas Jefferson would DISAGREE. It just so happens that a democratically elected government was VIOLATING THE CONSTITUTION in 1861----just as it has done for the last 150 years, but the reason people dont do NOW what they did in 1861 is because Lincoln's war was for the sole purpose of creating an American empire and killing states rights and making people think secession is treason. He succeeded in doing that.<br /><br />Talking about 1861 is NOT changing the subject, because in 1861 it was a DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED govt THEN, as it is now---and 13 states seceded---and they had that right to secede in peace. It was Lincoln and his armies that VIOLATED the constitution by FORCING them to keep together an INVOLUNTARY union.<br /><br />You dont know JACK SHIT about our origins and our documents because you're one of the brainwashed jackasses that think Lincoln was a GOOD president--when in reality, he violated the Constitution more than ANY other president.<br /><br />Here's a question for you:<br /><br />Was the USA in 1861 like Nazi Germany?? [I am quite aware Nazi Germany came AFTER 1861----but my point is---were they alike?]<br /><br />Since you LOVE to continually use Nazi Germany as the standard for tyranny---it begs the question---was the country in 1861 like them?<br /><br />But yet they SECEDED---and why? They had EVERY RIGHT to. This is why hundreds of NORTHERN [did you catch that? I said NORTHERN] newspapers SUPPORTED the secession of the South--and its why Lincoln had them all shut down and threw their editors in prison. Now WHY would Lincoln throw NORTHERN newspaper editors in prison??? HUH??? HUH?????????<br /><br />BECAUSE HE WAS VIOLATING THE CONSTITUTION. HE WAS TRAMPLING ON STATES RIGHTS. HE WAS CALLING SECESSION TREASON-----[but our founding documents PERMIT IT].<br /><br />Read much? Apparently NOT.Real Truth Onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00545271385276174336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-45367142460417700672011-10-28T03:01:57.098+01:002011-10-28T03:01:57.098+01:00And respect the result.And respect the result.the_last_name_lefthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276770064991215910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-82003419283156983722011-10-28T03:01:39.672+01:002011-10-28T03:01:39.672+01:00On the face of it, you and Rivero - and all your f...On the face of it, you and Rivero - and all your fellow travellers - are liable to being charged with sedition. Up to 20 years in jail for it.....<br /><br />You and the others justify your sedition on the grounds that the USA is "an absolute despotism"....a tyranny.<br /><br />And yet none of you get charged with sedition. <br /><br />That fact alone goes a long way to disproving your claims of American-state despotism and tyranny.....and gives all the more reason why what you do is sedition.....giving all the more reason why you could (should) be charged.<br /><br />But of course, if you were charged with it, then you'd claim that was tyranny and despotism! lol<br /><br />I'm quite amazed that the US state doesn't jump on you folks. I imagine the reasons they don't are<br /><br />1) they don't take you all that seriously (who does?)<br /><br />2) it would only serve to confirm your views whilst not pursuing you undermines them<br /><br />3) it would cause a shitstorm<br /><br />You don't seem to understand how relatively tolerant the US state appears to be over this stuff.....nor how far into it you and your fellow-travellers actually are.<br /><br />I honestly believe you should seriously think about it.<br /><br />And renew your commitment to democratic reform as opposed to revolutionary impulse.<br /><br />Occupy the polling booths, eh?the_last_name_lefthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276770064991215910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-61191626801719945172011-10-28T02:45:15.545+01:002011-10-28T02:45:15.545+01:00Don't change the topic.
Now, let's have y...Don't change the topic.<br /><br />Now, let's have your explanation of the difference between sedition against, say, Nazi Germany, and against the present-day USA?<br /><br />Oh, but hold on - you don't believe there is any difference. <br /><br />Trying to overthrow a democratically elected government (one which also holds to a Bill of Rights) is an obvious case of sedition and is anti-constitutional. <br /><br />And obviously, advocating such a thing is taking steps towards doing it - and encouraging it. Sedition.<br /><br />Especially when you have every opportunity to attempt to get elected and repeal whatever laws you like - if you can muster the support to do so.<br /><br />Only you - and Rivero et al - don't bother because you know you cannot succeed. So instead you claim you have a right to abolish the state apparatus, remove the elected government and wholly disregard the statute laws.<br /><br />Read this again?<br /><br /><br />==========<br />"Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or<br /><br />Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or<br /><br />Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—<br /><br />Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years<br />=============<br /><br />Like it or not, that's the law.<br /><br /><br />Your first response in this thread was to say:<br /><br />"it is the people's DUTY to form a new gov't when the old one is corrupt."<br /><br />And you asked if Jefferson would be a traitor today. A traitor is actually slightly different to a seditionist, but YES, Jefferson certainly would be guilty of sedition today. He was then - it caused a war, don't you know?<br /><br />Why guilty of sedition today? You even quoted a reason yourself: <br /><br />"Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes"<br /><br />and<br /><br />"when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces <b>a design to reduce them under absolute despotism</b>, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government"<br /><br />A democratic government with a bill of rights such as modern USA - even with all its faults - IS NOT AN ABSOLUTE DESPOTISM.<br /><br />Yet you claim:<br /> <br />L: "The only big difference really is, in Germany it was more transparent---in the USA today, it's more hidden."<br />----<br /><br />Woah!!<br /><br />So you claim for yourself and your fellow-travellers like Rivero the exact same right to sedition that you and anyone else would grant the Jews under Nazi totalitarian dictatorship and in the face of the Holocaust!<br /><br />wow.<br /><br />That's the measure of your.....insanity.the_last_name_lefthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276770064991215910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-45383784245602892772011-10-28T02:11:48.824+01:002011-10-28T02:11:48.824+01:00"Who are the most famous contemporaries who b..."Who are the most famous contemporaries who believed as you do?<br /><br />Terry Nichols and Tim McVeigh.<br /><br />#Nice.<br /><br />But that's fine, because they believed the USA was a tyranny and blah blah blah. Right?"<br /><br />An act of terrorism is NOT what the founders permitted in the Declaration. They permitted SECESSION. Isn't it odd that when the South did the PERMITTED thing in 1861 and SECEDED, the Federal government committed the act of terrorism by INVADING and PILLAGING the South??<br /><br />Amazing huh?Real Truth Onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00545271385276174336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-30523656267541260082011-10-28T02:09:13.513+01:002011-10-28T02:09:13.513+01:00"The difference is that Rivero is PRESENTLY E..."The difference is that Rivero is PRESENTLY ENGAGED IN SEDITION AGAINST A DEMOCRATIC STATE. HE IS NOT ENGAGING IN SEDITION AGAINST A TYRANNY."<br /><br />It was also a DEMOCRATIC state in 1861, and the South was RIGHT for what they did. <br /><br />So, what is your point???Real Truth Onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00545271385276174336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-49742958338291178452011-10-27T18:28:19.401+01:002011-10-27T18:28:19.401+01:00beginning in the late 1960s, a number of right-win...beginning in the late 1960s, a number of right-wing fringe groups formed that questioned the authority and nature of the federal government. Most grew out of a recently emergent right-wing tax-protest movement: arguments about the illegitimacy of income tax laws were easily expanded or altered to challenge the legitimacy of the government itself. The most important of these groups was the Posse Comitatus,1 which originated in Oregon and California around 1970.<br /><br />Members of the Posse Comitatus believed that the county was the true seat of government in the United States. They did not deny the legal existence of federal or state governments, but rather claimed that the county level was the "highest authority of government in our Republic as it is closest to the people." The basic Posse manual stated that there had been "subtle subversion" of the Constitution by various arms and levels of government, especially the judiciary. There was, in fact, a "criminal conspiracy to obstruct justice, disfranchise citizens and liquidate the Constitutional Republic of these United States."<br /><br />The Posse wanted to reverse this subversion and "restore" the Republic through <br />(1) unilateral actions by the people (i.e., the Posse) and (2) actions by the county sheriff. The sheriff, they argued, was the only constitutional law enforcement officer. Moreover, his most important role was to protect the people from the unlawful acts of officials of governments like judges and government agents. Should a sheriff refuse to carry out such duties, the people (i.e., the Posse) had the right to hang him. In fact, the two most prominent Posse symbols became a sheriff's badge and a hangman's noose.<br /><br />The Posse reached its peak in the early 1980s when a farm crisis in the Midwest allowed Posse leaders to recruit among angry and desperate farmers. By this time Posse ideology had developed into an elaborate theory involving an original, utopian form of government based upon "common law" (the "de jure" government) that had been subverted and replaced with an illegitimate, tyrannical government (the "de facto" government). Americans obeyed the de facto government, because they had been tricked into believing it was legitimate.<br />============<br /><br />They believed the USA was a tyranny - so they were entitled to do whatever the hell they likes to overthrow it. According to Larry. Right?the_last_name_lefthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276770064991215910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-71134849269592883352011-10-27T18:25:45.093+01:002011-10-27T18:25:45.093+01:00Who are the most famous contemporaries who believe...Who are the most famous contemporaries who believed as you do?<br /><br />Terry Nichols and Tim McVeigh.<br /><br />#Nice.<br /><br />But that's fine, because they believed the USA was a tyranny and blah blah blah. Right?the_last_name_lefthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276770064991215910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-25453765151135963942011-10-27T18:15:31.818+01:002011-10-27T18:15:31.818+01:00And whilst you consider yourself such a law-abidin...And whilst you consider yourself such a law-abiding citizen re The Constitution, you endorse people such as Rivero engaging in sedition against the state. Some patriot you are.<br /><br />You want laws repealed? You want to abolish the FED etc?<br /><br />GET ELECTED!!!!<br /><br />But no - you can't do that, because nobody will elect you or those who believe as you do.<br /><br />And so, rather than abide by the Constitution and work to change the laws legally - you resort to sedition - calling for the overthrow of the democratically elected government of the USA. <br /><br />Some Constitutionalist you are! The existence of laws which you believe to be unconstitutional does not provide you with a right to foment revolution and engage in sedition.<br /><br />The Supreme Court decides what is constitutional - not you. You can have an opinion, but that's all it is - YOUR OPINION. The Supreme Court decides - and you are Constitutionally bound to accept it. Else what is your commitment to the Constitution? In fact it doesn't exist. In fact you believe you are bound **only** to your own Constitution - YOUR INTERPRETATION of the Constitution. Well, sorry - but YOU DON'T GET TO DECIDE. You have your opinion - and you have the liberty to have your opinion - you DO NOT have a right to decide what the Constitution "really" means. <br /><br />And that's what you don't get. And that right there is the danger you "sovereign individual" idiots pose to society. You don't recognise any other view - you are a king to yourselves. Let's all behave like we're 9 years old. ridiculous.the_last_name_lefthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276770064991215910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-25582555414274094602011-10-27T18:03:59.823+01:002011-10-27T18:03:59.823+01:00I'll make it clear as day for you, seeing as y...I'll make it clear as day for you, seeing as you find comprehension so difficult.<br /><br />L: you are ADMITTING there are EXCEPTIONS to breaking sedition laws<br />----<br /><br />Of course. I already this. The point is - what are the grounds for the exception(s)? Simply feeling a law is "unjust" isn't good enough. I nearly got sent to jail to for not paying a parking ticket - I was given half an hour to find £350, or else I was going to jail. Now, I think that is ridiculous, and unjust. Does it seriously warrant revolution? Don't be bloody stupid!<br /><br />L: and here you are TODAY saying that you AGREE with me that no country grants exceptions to sedition laws.<br />=====<br /><br />Rubbish! You are the one that refuses to recognise sedition laws exist. <br /><br />I have said from the beginning that there are laws against sedition, and that there is no exception made, regardless how 'unjust' or 'tyrannical' the regime is. <br /><br />L:PLEASE clear up the difference between what I just PROVED you said about sedition and what you claim Rivero is saying.<br />-----<br /><br />My god, you're slooooow.<br /><br />The difference is that Rivero is PRESENTLY ENGAGED IN SEDITION AGAINST A DEMOCRATIC STATE. HE IS NOT ENGAGING IN SEDITION AGAINST A TYRANNY.<br /><br />I - and most everyone else (I assume) - would support sedition against Nazi Germany. Because of the nature of the regime - its war against non-aligned nations - the Holocaust - the invasion of Poland - dictatorship - suspension of democracy - the totalitarianism - the authoritarianism.<br /><br />Present-day USA in no way qualifies as a similar regime. USA is democratic.<br /><br />AND - Rivero's sedition against a liberal-democracy with a bill of rights, rule of law etc....GOES UNPUNISHED.<br /><br />QED.<br /><br />GET IT NOW???<br /><br />Rivero justifies his sedition on the COMPLETELY SPURIOUS grounds that USA is "a tyranny".<br /><br />Yet such is the tyranny it takes no action against people engaged in sedition against it.<br /><br />Some tyranny.....<br /><br />Therefore Rivero's grounds for sedition do not exist - he has no justification for his sedition.<br /><br />No - it is not enough to simply believe some laws are "unjust". If you believe it is....then you're a fool.....and you're opening yourself up to facing the penalties prescribed for sedition. And rightly so imo.<br /><br />But even if you do engage in sedition - which you have done yourself previously (calling for violent overthrow of government) - you don't get charged with sedition.<br /><br />Some tyranny.the_last_name_lefthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276770064991215910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-53361166081584710332011-10-27T16:09:09.859+01:002011-10-27T16:09:09.859+01:00Your comment - now absent the vitriol - is there.
...Your comment - now absent the vitriol - is there.<br /><br />Ok? So quit your stupid griping.the_last_name_lefthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276770064991215910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-10935176128869330842011-10-27T12:22:03.143+01:002011-10-27T12:22:03.143+01:00If I'm wrong, then address each thing I say in...If I'm wrong, then address each thing I say in my long post above point by point. Im all ears.Real Truth Onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00545271385276174336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2904940198922843174.post-13375052423105987962011-10-27T12:20:28.949+01:002011-10-27T12:20:28.949+01:00"Actually, yes, I did mind the 50 times you p..."Actually, yes, I did mind the 50 times you previously called me.....fuckface, or whatever your insult de jour is.<br /><br />That you have got away with it so many times is a measure of my leniency, nothing else."<br /><br />LOL, yeah, your "leniency" miraculously stopped when I nailed your balls to the wall with your own contradictory statements and when I called you out on the fact that I exposed your hypocrisy, because in agreeing with me that sedition is justified in the face of unjust laws----you sound EXACTLY LIKE RIVERO, and you don't want that pointed out to you on your blog! You KNOW I'm right, that's why you DELETE the comment!Real Truth Onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00545271385276174336noreply@blogger.com